{"conversationCode":"045-172","tapeNumber":45,"conversationNumber":172,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-045-172","startDateTime":"1973-05-09T18:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-09T19:55:00.000Z","startDate":"9-May-1973","startTime":"2:31 PM","endDate":"9-May-1973","endTime":"3:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Garment, Leonard;","description":"On May 9, 1973, Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Leonard Garment talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:31 pm and 3:55 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 045-172 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 45-172\n\nDate: May 9, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 2:31 pm and 3:55 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nAlexander M. Haig, Jr. talked with Leonard Garment.\n\f                                             -110-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 45-172 (cont’d)\n\n[See also Conversation No. 432-37B]\n\n     Watergate\n          -Documents\n               -Filing of motion\n               -Justice Department\n          -Unknown man\n               -Competence","filename":["045-172.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","Garment, Leonard"],"prevCode":"045-171","nextCode":"045-173","transcript":[{"start":1.18,"end":1.62,"text":"Hey?"},{"start":1.88,"end":2.5,"text":"Mr. Carman."},{"start":2.64,"end":2.96,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":3.12,"end":3.4,"text":"It's Al."},{"start":3.62,"end":3.86,"text":"Lynn?"},{"start":4.06,"end":4.6,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.62,"end":6.36,"text":"Have we got any word on the documents yet?"},{"start":7.12,"end":7.92,"text":"Motion was filed."},{"start":8.04,"end":8.57,"text":"I understand."},{"start":9.33,"end":10.21,"text":"Yeah, I know that."},{"start":10.23,"end":10.75,"text":"No, we don't."},{"start":10.77,"end":13.09,"text":"Well, no, that didn't happen instantly."},{"start":14.47,"end":15.23,"text":"How will we hear?"},{"start":15.31,"end":20.74,"text":"We'll hear by word from the Justice Department as soon as they get word from the court."},{"start":21.7,"end":22.8,"text":"I'll press them on it."},{"start":22.82,"end":23.12,"text":"Okay."},{"start":23.14,"end":23.84,"text":"I'll call over there."},{"start":24,"end":25.3,"text":"How are you doing on your strategy?"},{"start":25.7,"end":26.62,"text":"This fellow's first grade."},{"start":27.46,"end":27.79,"text":"First grade."},{"start":27.82,"end":29.45,"text":"Oh, you couldn't have done better?"},{"start":30.44,"end":31.24,"text":"I don't really mean that."},{"start":31.26,"end":31.44,"text":"I know."},{"start":31.72,"end":34.53,"text":"Better than the other fellow by a factor of 10."},{"start":35.09,"end":35.57,"text":"So we're gone."},{"start":35.59,"end":39.02,"text":"We've got some headway, but we're into some problems."},{"start":39.04,"end":39.24,"text":"All right."},{"start":39.26,"end":40.34,"text":"We'll talk to you about them later."},{"start":40.37,"end":40.62,"text":"Okay."},{"start":40.67,"end":43.67,"text":"Very good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Alexander Haig and Leonard Garment coordinated on the status of legal filings regarding Watergate-related documents and communications with the Justice Department. Garment confirmed that a motion had been filed and agreed to press for updates from the court via Justice Department channels. Additionally, the pair briefly discussed the competence of an unnamed individual, with Garment expressing confidence in the person's performance relative to previous alternatives.","topics":["Watergate","Legal strategy","Justice Department","Document filing","Personnel"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:16:06.520Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","legal-strategy","justice-department","document-filing","personnel"],"audioDurationSec":48,"audioFiles":[{"file":"045-172.mp3","bytes":1556480,"durationSec":48.49,"bitrate":256774,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.407Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.632Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/045-172.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-172","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/45/conversation-045-172","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}