{"conversationCode":"045-197","tapeNumber":45,"conversationNumber":197,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-045-197","startDateTime":"1973-05-10T20:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-10T20:42:00.000Z","startDate":"10-May-1973","startTime":"4:24 PM","endDate":"10-May-1973","endTime":"4:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On May 10, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:24 pm and 4:42 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 045-197 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 45-197\n\nDate: May 10, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 4:24 pm and 4:42 p.m.\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\f                                               -126-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                            Conversation No. 45-197 (cont’d)\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Request for telephone call\n          -Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["045-197.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"045-196","nextCode":"045-198","transcript":[{"start":0.42,"end":5.15,"text":"Ron Ziegler, please."},{"start":5.17,"end":5.35,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a brief telephone call with the White House operator to request a connection with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The conversation serves solely as a logistical bridge to facilitate communication with his staff. No further substantive policy matters or tactical discussions are addressed during this brief exchange.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House operations","Staff communication","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:18:26.471Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-operations","staff-communication","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":10,"audioFiles":[{"file":"045-197.mp3","bytes":329728,"durationSec":10.2,"bitrate":258610,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.103Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.634Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/045-197.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/045-197","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/45/conversation-045-197","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}