{"conversationCode":"046-034","tapeNumber":46,"conversationNumber":34,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-046-034","startDateTime":"1973-05-14T23:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-15T00:15:00.000Z","startDate":"14-May-1973","startTime":"7:27 PM","endDate":"14-May-1973","endTime":"8:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Ziegler, Ronald L.; Garment, Leonard;","description":"On May 14, 1973, Ronald L. Ziegler and Leonard Garment talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:27 pm and 8:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 046-034 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 46-34\n\nDate: May 14, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 7:27 pm and 8:15 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nRonald L. Ziegler talked with Leonard Garment. The recording began at an unknown time\nwhile the conversation was in progress.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 436-15A]\n\n     Watergate\n          -Unknown man\n               -Attempts to reach Sam J. Ervin, Jr.\n\f                                             -21-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM","filename":["046-034.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Ziegler, Ronald L.","Garment, Leonard"],"prevCode":"046-033","nextCode":"046-035","transcript":[{"start":7.17,"end":9.97,"text":"Call me back in the president's office on 504 when you're finished."},{"start":9.99,"end":10.29,"text":"All right."},{"start":10.31,"end":14.12,"text":"He's already denied this story, but I'll call you at 504."},{"start":15.22,"end":24.86,"text":"Find out what he said, and I think maybe what you're saying is that, you know, if they continue on this basis, we can just call for a public apology tomorrow."},{"start":24.88,"end":25.78,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":25.82,"end":28.06,"text":"He said he's been trying to reach Irvin."},{"start":28.08,"end":30.31,"text":"He probably can't reach him until after 9 tonight."},{"start":30.69,"end":32.46,"text":"And then call me back, right?"},{"start":32.52,"end":33.3,"text":"On aisle 504."},{"start":33.36,"end":35.67,"text":"We're on White House line 504."},{"start":35.71,"end":37.14,"text":"White House line 504."},{"start":37.16,"end":37.9,"text":"Okay, good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Ronald L. Ziegler and Leonard Garment coordinate a strategy to manage negative press coverage concerning the Watergate investigation. They discuss an individual's attempt to contact Senator Sam Ervin and contemplate demanding a public apology if the critical reports persist. The participants establish a secure communication channel via a specific White House telephone line to finalize their response after further information is gathered.","topics":["Watergate","Sam Ervin","Public Relations","Media Strategy","Crisis Management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:23:48.487Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","sam-ervin","public-relations","media-strategy","crisis-management"],"audioDurationSec":44,"audioFiles":[{"file":"046-034.mp3","bytes":1409024,"durationSec":43.93,"bitrate":256574,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:44.992Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/046-034.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/046-034","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/46/conversation-046-034","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}