Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 046-037
Date: Monday, May 14, 1973 at 7:27 PM
Participants: Ziegler, Ronald L.; Higby, Lawrence M.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/046-037

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[0:02] Hello.
[0:02] Hi, Ron.
[0:03] Hi, Larry.
[0:06] Yeah.
[0:06] The president, he was interested to know how Bob did today.
[0:10] Bob felt fine.
[0:11] He felt fine?
[0:12] Yeah, five and a half hours worth, he said.
[0:14] And he said they felt they had plenty to indict him or that they were just giving up and he wasn't sure which.
[0:21] What did they get into?
[0:23] Everything.
[0:24] They covered the full range of things, including apparently somehow they got a news report in on the Symington thing and they asked...
[0:31] Oh, and he was able to knock that out?
[0:34] Well, he said, my entire involvement with the CIA consisted of one meeting with General Walters.
[0:44] That's the only meeting I ever had.
[0:47] And he said, I can't get into it because it was national security, primarily.
[0:52] And it simply left it at that.
[0:55] As I understand it.
[0:56] And Bob's in good spirits.
[0:57] He doesn't know if he'll have to go back or not.
[1:03] Was he yelling at you the other year?
[1:04] That's right.
[1:05] And he talked about some other things, and he said that he's very concerned, and we have Haig now finding out specifically what Walter said.
[1:15] Yeah.
[1:15] You can tell him that's underway right now.
[1:18] Haig and Bazzard have got Walter's in the office there.
[1:20] Right.
[1:20] He knows that.
[1:21] Okay.
[1:22] Bob thought it went well.
[1:24] He thought it went well.
[1:24] He couldn't get a reading on it.
[1:26] You know, he said that half the grand jury was asleep and Lanzer was jumping all over the place and Silbert was just kind of shaking his head.
[1:34] All of the blacks, huh?
[1:36] Most definitely.
[1:37] Okay.
[1:37] Okay?
[1:39] All right.
[1:39] Any other topics other than that?
[1:42] I don't know.
[1:42] Did Haig get into the Finch Foundation thing?
[1:48] Well, Al, let me talk to you about that one.
[1:50] Okay, because there's a way, and there's plenty of ways out of that.
[1:53] The president shouldn't even be bothered with working.
[1:56] Yeah, he's not.
[1:57] He's not at all.
[1:58] Okay, good.
[1:58] He's not going to be.
[1:59] Well, Bob, there's very... No, that's something that I wouldn't even raise with the president.
[2:04] You know, it's something he shouldn't.
[2:06] Good.
[2:07] Okay, fine.