{"conversationCode":"046-065","tapeNumber":46,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-046-065","startDateTime":"1973-05-15T20:19:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-15T20:20:00.000Z","startDate":"15-May-1973","startTime":"4:19 PM","endDate":"15-May-1973","endTime":"4:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On May 15, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 4:19 pm to 4:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 046-065 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":"Abuse of Governmental Power Release","aogpSegment":"Segment 0","lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 46-65\n\nDate: May 15, 1973\nTime: 4:19 pm - 4:20 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See also Conversation No. 435-34]\n\n      Watergate\n           -John W. Dean, III’s documents\n                 -Release","filename":["046-065.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"046-064","nextCode":"046-066","transcript":[{"start":1.23,"end":2.01,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.33,"end":2.77,"text":"Hi, Ron."},{"start":2.83,"end":3.11,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":3.13,"end":4.53,"text":"I was out of the office when you called."},{"start":4.85,"end":5.45,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":5.63,"end":6.75,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":6.78,"end":8.38,"text":"Any developments on the box yet?"},{"start":8.92,"end":9.28,"text":"Not yet."},{"start":9.36,"end":9.68,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":12.96,"end":17.61,"text":"I wonder if you could check to see if they are finally getting at the damn stuff and when we'll have the dope."},{"start":17.63,"end":18.43,"text":"Yes, I will immediately."},{"start":19.63,"end":20.55,"text":"Somebody's over there."},{"start":20.57,"end":21.17,"text":"Is that right?"},{"start":22.89,"end":23.25,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":23.53,"end":28.26,"text":"Apparently they were going to open it at 4 or something like that, right?"},{"start":28.28,"end":28.52,"text":"Right."},{"start":28.73,"end":30.3,"text":"Check immediately and get right back to you."},{"start":30.5,"end":31.09,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":31.15,"end":35.93,"text":"Okay, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler discuss the status of materials related to John W. Dean III held in a secure container. The President expresses impatience regarding the delayed inspection of these documents and instructs Ziegler to verify their current accessibility. Ziegler commits to immediately checking the progress of the review and reporting back to the President.","topics":["Watergate","John W. Dean III","White House documents","Executive privilege","Administration communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:26:39.844Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","john-w-dean-iii","white-house-documents","executive-privilege","administration-communications"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"046-065.mp3","bytes":1308672,"durationSec":40.77,"bitrate":256770,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.103Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/046-065.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/046-065","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/46/conversation-046-065","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}