Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 046-109
Date: Thursday, May 17, 1973 at 8:01 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/046-109

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[0:00] No.
[0:01] Yes, Mr. President.
[0:02] Anything new?
[0:03] No, sir.
[0:03] Not really since I talked to you last time.
[0:05] You haven't got any more affidavits, huh?
[0:06] No, sir.
[0:08] We didn't turn up any records here.
[0:11] But they...
[0:12] They're still searching?
[0:13] Yes, sir.
[0:14] Good.
[0:15] You may find them, though, you know.
[0:16] It takes time to find records.
[0:18] That's true.
[0:19] We've got another source to check tomorrow morning.
[0:22] Although it was out today and we'll be back tomorrow morning.
[0:25] But as far as your oral... That's the oral still, sir.
[0:28] That's good.
[0:29] Your oral's still solid.
[0:30] Right.
[0:33] So we'll keep moving on it.
[0:35] Tomorrow morning we should begin to get the affidavits.
[0:38] That's the stuff.
[0:40] Get your affidavits, get everything in a row, and be ready to hit on it.
[0:44] All right, so we'll be all lined up.
[0:46] Yeah.
[0:47] And, uh...
[0:51] Well, the television they went about is what we expected it to be.
[0:54] They really badgered these guys, you understand?
[0:56] They badgered them.
[0:58] I really didn't get a chance to watch it, some of the transcripts tonight, and I just glanced through them.
[1:04] I talked briefly to Bruce Curlie.
[1:06] He's a good man.
[1:07] Very well.
[1:08] He's a good man.
[1:10] David thought he did damn well.
[1:12] Yes.
[1:13] They said he gave a little hard time, but
[1:15] You know, the committee's going to do that, though, Fred, we have to remember.
[1:19] But they can overplay their hands.
[1:23] I don't know.
[1:24] There are few times when I know where a committee has beaten the witness in this case.
[1:30] They don't very easily.
[1:31] It's damn hard.
[1:33] It is when the witness runs.
[1:34] Because they aren't.
[1:34] Because basically the committee members are not well prepared, and they don't look very good.
[1:39] And they put the witness in the position of being badgered and arrested, and they just knock the shit out of them.
[1:45] Well, I gather that all the witnesses did very well today.
[1:48] That's your impression?
[1:50] Yes, sir.
[1:51] As I say, I didn't get to watch it, but the report I got wasn't there.
[1:54] Don't you watch it.
[1:55] Don't waste your time on it, please.
[1:58] We're doing more important things.
[2:00] But on your affidavits, then you're going to work again on those tomorrow?
[2:04] Right, sir.
[2:05] And they're coming in.
[2:07] And you haven't found any notes yet, though?
[2:10] Nobody's come up with any notes?
[2:11] God damn it, do you think they destroyed their notes?
[2:14] Well, Brennan at FBI has records, and he's going through them.
[2:20] I'm sure he has some notes on him.
[2:22] Cordello had three LIMCONS of telephone conversations.
[2:27] Oh.
[2:28] Not helpful, huh?
[2:29] And they're looking at the agency, CIE.
[2:31] Right.
[2:33] And... Sullivan's coming down.
[2:35] Right, Sullivan's coming.
[2:36] Houston's coming in.
[2:38] Houston, yes, sir.
[2:39] All right.
[2:40] Okay, you're going to win this one, boy.
[2:42] We're going to try.
[2:42] Try?
[2:44] Hell, you're going to win it.
[2:45] Right.
[2:45] Okay.
[2:46] Good.