Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 51 › Conversation 051-007

Nixon & Connally on Press Briefing and Agricultural Policy

Thursday, March 25, 1971 · 11:25 AM–11:30 AM ET · Cabinet Room · 6 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.Conversation051-007 on Tape 51StartThursday, March 25, 1971 at 11:25 AMEndThursday, March 25, 1971 at 11:30 AMRecording deviceCabinet RoomSourceNixon Library record for 051-007 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417174121 ↗

President Nixon and John B. Connally met to coordinate messaging for an upcoming press briefing, focusing on complex domestic and foreign policy issues. They discussed strategies for managing political optics regarding farm prices, welfare reform, and public skepticism toward military and space-related expenditures. The two also evaluated the geopolitical implications of U.S.-China relations and the necessity of maintaining a firm public stance despite potential domestic resistance.

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On March 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 11:25 am to 11:30 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 051-007 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 51-7

Date: March 25, 1971
Time: 11:25 am - 11:30 am
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with John B. Connally

     Forthcoming press briefing
          -Connally’s role
          -President’s role
                -Costs, effectiveness [of reorganization plan?]

     Farm prices
          -Possible solutions
          -Importance
          -John D. Ehrlichman

           -Wilbur D. Mills
           -Connally’s forthcoming comments
                -Food stamps, welfare
                     -New York City

     Forthcoming press briefing

     Supersonic Transport [SST]
          -Clinton P. Anderson
          -Margaret Chase Smith
          -Importance

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           Europe

[To listen to the segment (46s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-512.]

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     US public opinion
         -Military
         -Space program
         -Military research and development
         -SST
         -President’s strategy

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An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:25 am

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:30 am

           Vietnam

[To listen to the segment (15s) declassified on 02/28/2002, please refer to RC# E-512.]

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     President’s schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting with Connally

The President and Connally left at 11:30 am

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I mean, as far as news is concerned, it's a damn complicated matter.
Whatever you get across.
I will try to say very briefly, I think a lot of it is true.
The one part is, depending on what you say, I would not throw it to you first.
Well, I think what you say, I think we ought to cover it.
One of us ought to cover it.
In fact, most people are frustrated with that.
They think it costs too much.
In fact, do they want to do it?
I'll let you take those points.
In fact, I think that it costs too much.
It doesn't work.
You can't do anything about it.
It just gets at it.
This just gets at the problem.
You know, the one problem that I thought that we could discuss perhaps, which is a very great political problem, and it has to be the one that poaches the greatest confidence we might imagine.
It's accurate to what you just said.
Sam Farmer is trying to really raise the tone on the ground, and they say now they've got to go to three, but those are the ones that won.
I don't think that's true.
As a matter of fact, I think they go to 30 of those now.
But I would like for you to put your mind, if you would, to how we can qualify them.
In other words, maybe there's a way to put up a farmer window here or something.
I don't know.
Or a clearinghouse in the White House.
Or I don't know.
Or maybe you just say, just remember we decided to do this.
We did it later in the farm.
We said, well, let's have all of our animals done that.
I don't know how significant the department thing is.
It's not very clear.
I always gave it to the business person.
I think what happens in the department of green access is what happens in the department of systems.
That's like the belt.
I don't know.
Did that go all right?
Well, I don't know.
I'm doing that.
That's what that job is.
That's what that job is.
That's what that job is.
I think it was a little bit of a reading when he was talking about it.
It was a little bit of a reading.
I don't know if we're reading any times.
Well, on agriculture, my approach to it was going to be, I'm just going to say good luck.
Y'all get the cues of all kinds of things.
You've got food stamps.
You've got service commodities.
You've got everything in the world.
You've got everything.
toward New York and get your corporations involved with your manpower and all of a sudden it really contributes nothing to your welfare.
If you get blamed for it, you have this.
If you don't, if you don't get a low profile here, these cities legislate hard, it's gonna absolutely destroy you.
You're not gonna have any kind of progress that's gonna help you there.
And so my approach is gonna be, they've got to get out of the spotlight and out of the limelight.
They've got to get submerged.
Because they can't, they can't exist.
For very long, they can't be present, to be honest with you.
I know some states, they were ready, they were ready to meet up.
Well, they, you know, of course, you know, you know, you really come down to it.
You can stop and think about it.
I told him, I said, Steve, that was so gross.
Here, two, three people, Anderson.
A person just practicing how it is to be me when he's left.
That man, Margaret, who was a ridiculous young woman who was living in John.
But I'll tell you this, I feel exactly the same.
This country doesn't go forward like that.
I think we're fighting the right battle here.
The public may not be with us yet, but they will be in the end.
Don't you think so?
Yes, sir.
As far as the next 10 weeks go, we've got to do the talking because we're not able to monitor the crisis in the world.
Of course, just like you said.
We've got a negative balance of payments for the first two and a half months of this year of $5 billion.
We've got the Germans coming over here.
They want us to give some guarantees.
We've got the settlers that come in and say we want gold.
And the Dutch and Swiss are talking about the same damn thing.
The Germans, for the first time in 54 years, we've got $15.5 billion in reserves.
We've got $13.5 billion.
Uh, and this is going to be a serious problem for us when we get to the point where we're not even put into the mass.
I think the need for commercial aviation, that's a serious point.
They want to dismantle the army to bring the boys home.
They don't want to support the space program.
The space will be next.
They're next.
They're going to dismantle the lack of doors that have any relation to the military or science.
And they won't support the commercial essentially until you get ahead on this side.
Uh, we're in the hands of the beast.
But don't we just have to fight with Peter?
I'm all for fighting.
I'm happy to fight.
It's all tied in, like I said.
It's all splitters.
Well, that's going to be one of those games.
No, of course not.
Something will happen to the world.
Something will happen to the world.
Something will happen to the world.
We're going to come out to the park and come out of this place and think, all right, you know, we did a bad job.
You know, these little guys got out of there.
They got out of there and they just got to report down the side.
I think they did an awful lot.
I think they did an awful lot.
I think they did an awful lot.
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Conversation 051-007, March 25, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417174121). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/051-007 (accessed November 2, 2026).