{"conversationCode":"067-004","tapeNumber":67,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-067-004","startDateTime":"1971-07-30T13:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-30T14:10:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jul-1971","startTime":"9:54 AM","endDate":"30-Jul-1971","endTime":"10:10 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House tour group;","description":"On July 30, 1971, a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 9:54 am and 10:10 am. 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Are your terms over?"},{"start":2294.59,"end":2295.97,"text":"Mother's always wanted to be president."},{"start":2296.03,"end":2297.53,"text":"This is the mother, yeah, this is the mother."},{"start":2297.55,"end":2300.49,"text":"So you came through here, and I came in here."},{"start":2300.55,"end":2303.85,"text":"You can say that you sat with the president here."},{"start":2304.01,"end":2307.99,"text":"Is it comfortable wearing this present?"},{"start":2308.03,"end":2308.49,"text":"Very well."},{"start":2308.51,"end":2309.15,"text":"All right."},{"start":2309.17,"end":2311.47,"text":"Come on, dad, you can do that too."},{"start":2313.63,"end":2314.81,"text":"Ah, that's good."},{"start":2314.85,"end":2315.99,"text":"You can use that to work."},{"start":2316.05,"end":2317.33,"text":"You better take two more weeks off."},{"start":2317.39,"end":2318.81,"text":"You know what's timeless?"},{"start":2318.85,"end":2320.83,"text":"This is nice to hear, but they do realize fire."},{"start":2320.85,"end":2321.73,"text":"Fire goes from fireplace."},{"start":2321.75,"end":2322.33,"text":"Is it always heavy?"},{"start":2322.37,"end":2322.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2339.33,"end":2340.45,"text":"You have quite a responsibility to maintain this."},{"start":2340.47,"end":2340.77,"text":"Yes, it says so."},{"start":2340.79,"end":2341.79,"text":"What is your staff position so now we can take it?"},{"start":2362.65,"end":2364.45,"text":"It's Hilary Boyd Mason Ranch."},{"start":2364.51,"end":2365.55,"text":"I have 283 people now."},{"start":2365.65,"end":2368.14,"text":"We take care of the White House and a bunch of other buildings."},{"start":2397.09,"end":2398.25,"text":"I can feel the fire."},{"start":2398.37,"end":2399.25,"text":"I can feel the fire."},{"start":2399.27,"end":2400.11,"text":"I can feel the fire."},{"start":2400.17,"end":2400.86,"text":"I can feel the fire."},{"start":2446.08,"end":2447.36,"text":"This is something that you would be interested in."},{"start":2447.38,"end":2448.84,"text":"This floor here, this is what they call Thomas Jones."},{"start":2448.86,"end":2449.61,"text":"They had him close to him."},{"start":2449.62,"end":2451.09,"text":"His portrait is more in the center with the knots of trees."},{"start":2451.11,"end":2451.77,"text":"This is the knots."},{"start":2451.79,"end":2453.17,"text":"He cut down a tree and put all the knots in the center of it."},{"start":2453.19,"end":2454.11,"text":"So this was all put down by Thomas Jones."},{"start":2479.02,"end":2481.57,"text":"I don't know what's coming to you."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":2107,"end":2485,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","originalFilename":["067a.mp3","067b.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["067a.mp3"],"cutStart":2105.5,"cutEnd":2486.5,"adjustedStart":2105.5,"adjustedEnd":2486.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:17.269Z"},"aiSummary":{"text":"A White House staff member provided a tour of the Cabinet Room to a group of visitors, including several children. 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