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And uh [unintelligible]"},{"start":48,"end":51,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"There you go."},{"start":52,"end":55,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"I had a right good beginning to say [unintelligible]"},{"start":84,"end":86,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Dead eye Dick is go for"},{"start":86,"end":90,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"[laughter] Who said that?"},{"start":90,"end":94,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"said that. That is all of his uh [unintelligible]"},{"start":95,"end":101,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"[unintelligible] and the and then the"},{"start":101,"end":104,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Oh it's Kennedy's, uh, master."},{"start":104,"end":105,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Kennedy's, yes."},{"start":106,"end":109,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Go for two minutes? What is that?"},{"start":109,"end":114,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Well, not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you."},{"start":114,"end":116,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"That's Kennedy."},{"start":116,"end":119,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"That's that's uh Is that what the senator said?"},{"start":120,"end":125,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah, that was that coach. I got it right."},{"start":125,"end":128,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah. Come down here."},{"start":129,"end":132,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Mr. Vincent Smith?"},{"start":132,"end":133,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah, Grayson Smith."},{"start":133,"end":135,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Grayson Smith, yeah, that's right."},{"start":135,"end":140,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"See I know that guy [unintelligible] who ain't got no family."},{"start":140,"end":144,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Hey, did you [unintelligible] question?"},{"start":144,"end":147,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah. What's the reason for somebody [unintelligible]"},{"start":155,"end":158,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Oh, they sure do keep that thing on."},{"start":162,"end":165,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Go back. No, no, it's already, that's it."},{"start":165,"end":168,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"No, a couple drawings like that."},{"start":168,"end":169,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Excuse me."},{"start":170,"end":175,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"A cabin, then you're supposed to have, you know, like one room, you know, like that."},{"start":175,"end":178,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"[laughter] No doors or anything."},{"start":178,"end":180,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"No, no, and"},{"start":180,"end":182,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Hey, you, [laughter]"},{"start":182,"end":186,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Hm? You have to do it all systems."},{"start":193,"end":194,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Put it back?"},{"start":194,"end":195,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Huh?"},{"start":195,"end":197,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Put it back in foot-backward piece."},{"start":197,"end":198,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah."},{"start":198,"end":201,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Oh, that foot break is doing doing that. You still You're still working?"},{"start":201,"end":204,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Still working for me."},{"start":204,"end":205,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Good man."},{"start":205,"end":208,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah, all my plants are done."},{"start":208,"end":212,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Good man."},{"start":215,"end":219,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"All my [unintelligible] Good men are hard to find."},{"start":224,"end":228,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"General Sweeney says it's not hard to find them. He said that they are here. He just don't know who to choose."},{"start":228,"end":230,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Ain't ain't who you want to choose, but"},{"start":230,"end":233,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"[laughter] get forced in. Taking that door,"},{"start":233,"end":235,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"management is telling you to take them. Right."},{"start":235,"end":238,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Now he can't say it for management, then."},{"start":238,"end":243,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Well, that's what's wrong with a lot of these ball players now, thinking they are the managers. [laughter]"},{"start":243,"end":244,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah, that's right."},{"start":244,"end":247,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah, they think they're the manager."},{"start":247,"end":248,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah, they got more"},{"start":248,"end":250,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Who?"},{"start":250,"end":253,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"St. Thomas [unintelligible] team and he went straight to the top."},{"start":253,"end":257,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"First fourth year ever did a thing like that. 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