{"conversationCode":"085-011","tapeNumber":85,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-085-011","startDateTime":"1971-12-03T05:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-03T15:08:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Dec-1971","startTime":"12:00 AM","endDate":"3-Dec-1971","endTime":"10:08 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House tour group;","description":"On December 3, 1971, a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 10:08 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 085-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CAB","recordingDevice":"Cabinet Room","latitudeEstimated":38.8975,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"Cabinet","chronRelease":"Cabinet Room Release","chronReleaseDate":"16-Oct-1997","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 85-11\n\nDate: Unknown between December 3 and December 6, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:00 am, December 3 and 10:08 am, December 6, 1971\nLocation: Cabinet Room\n\nA tour group met\n\n     Cabinet Room\n          -The President’s and Vice President’s chairs\n          -Brass plates on chairs\n          -Secretary of State\n          -Secretary of Defense\n\n          -Secretary of the Treasury\n          -Attorney General\n          -Portraits\n          -Types of meetings\n                -Cabinet\n                -Domestic Council\n                -National Security Council\n                -Bill-signing ceremonies\n          -Andrew Jackson\n          -[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson\n          -Dwight D. Eisenhower\n\nThe tour group left at an unknown time before 10:08 am, December 6, 1971","filename":["085-011-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House tour group"],"prevCode":"085-010","nextCode":"085-012","tapeTranscriptFile":"085a.mp3,085b.mp3,085c.mp3,085d.mp3","transcript":[{"start":11006.35,"end":11008.77,"text":"This is the cabin room."},{"start":11008.89,"end":11010.31,"text":"And the president sits here."},{"start":11010.35,"end":11013.14,"text":"The vice president is right by our side."},{"start":11013.17,"end":11018.34,"text":"You might like to just walk around and look at the brass plates on the backs of the chairs."},{"start":11018.36,"end":11020.38,"text":"It's not in your case, but it's worth it."},{"start":11020.48,"end":11023.76,"text":"And I think this is a story you can do often."},{"start":11026.34,"end":11038.87,"text":"Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State, Secretary of State,"},{"start":11142.72,"end":11144.6,"text":"Yes, president for the school."},{"start":11144.62,"end":11144.74,"text":"Yes."},{"start":11144.88,"end":11155.17,"text":"It's interesting, in the case of Andrew Jackson, who was in the trial for the Civil Rights Corporation, and now by way of a lawsuit, I don't think that's necessary."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":11006,"end":11160,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","originalFilename":["085a.mp3","085b.mp3","085c.mp3","085d.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["085b.mp3"],"cutStart":11004.5,"cutEnd":11161.5,"adjustedStart":11004.5,"adjustedEnd":11161.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:18.840Z"},"aiSummary":{"text":"A White House tour group was guided through the Cabinet Room to observe the layout and furnishings of the executive office. The discussion focused on identifying specific seating arrangements for the President, Vice President, and cabinet-level secretaries, while noting the significance of various presidential portraits. The participants also briefly inspected the room’s chairs, specifically checking for standardized identification markings on the furniture.","topics":["White House tour","Cabinet Room","Presidential furniture","Cabinet seating","Executive office history"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:54:36.263Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-tour","cabinet-room","presidential-furniture","cabinet-seating","executive-office-history"],"audioDurationSec":157,"audioFiles":[{"file":"085-011-splice.mp3","bytes":2512419,"durationSec":157,"bitrate":128024,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:18.840Z","transcriptPrev":{"segments":19,"replacedAt":"2026-09-18T05:42:06.968Z"},"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/085-011-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/085-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/85/conversation-085-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}