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Due to the lack of a transcript and the complete withdrawal of the audio content, the specific participants, subject matter, and administrative outcomes of the meeting remain unknown to researchers. The recording serves as a historical placeholder for undocumented deliberations occurring within the White House during this period.","topics":["Cabinet Room","Unidentified participants","Withdrawn material","White House administration","Internal deliberations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T07:55:40.266Z"},"topicSlugs":["cabinet-room","unidentified-participants","withdrawn-material","white-house-administration","internal-deliberations"],"audioDurationSec":308,"audioFiles":[{"file":"087-002-splice.mp3","bytes":4928224,"durationSec":307.98,"bitrate":128012,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-10-27T04:37:17.956Z","originalFilename":["087a.mp3","087b.mp3","087c.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["087a.mp3"],"cutStart":4388.5,"cutEnd":4696.5,"adjustedStart":4388.5,"adjustedEnd":4696.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"medium","splicedAt":"2026-10-27T04:37:17.956Z"},"transcript":[{"start":4396.63,"end":4396.87,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":4626.47,"end":4634.21,"text":"This is the category of where the cadets meet each other on a regular basis."},{"start":4635.02,"end":4638.62,"text":"And each cadet member has a specific place to sit at the table."},{"start":4638.64,"end":4644.72,"text":"The president sits down here in the center, and the cadet meeting directly opposite is the vice president."},{"start":4645.81,"end":4651.19,"text":"And then the cadet members just sit around the table and sit person over on the side."},{"start":4653.04,"end":4655.78,"text":"And I don't know whether you've seen it on the jury's latest book."},{"start":4655.81,"end":4660.31,"text":"They had a photographer come in and take pictures of us while we were in here."},{"start":4660.45,"end":4667.73,"text":"And he took pictures all over the White House, but this was more of an incident for the attention here."},{"start":4668.97,"end":4675.25,"text":"We thought it was funny looking at the light in the shade of those little dots that you see at the back."},{"start":4675.35,"end":4679.26,"text":"And everybody gets very cold and suffering, so they can't really see that."},{"start":4679.27,"end":4684.26,"text":"But we can actually use film in here that's for outdoors, rather than indoor film."},{"start":4685.22,"end":4685.66,"text":"Filming?"},{"start":4686.18,"end":4691.12,"text":"Yeah, so they can bring the light up, so they can use that very fine-grained film."},{"start":4692.26,"end":4698.68,"text":"And often times you'll see photographs of the president signing the bill into law, and he's sitting right here when he's doing it."}],"transcriptConfidence":"medium","transcriptPrev":{"segments":14,"replacedAt":"2026-09-18T08:14:29.780Z"},"audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/087-002-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/087-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/087/conversation-087-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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