Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 90 › Conversation 090-004

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Monday, February 7, 1972 · 12:18 PM–11:22 AM ET · Cabinet Room · 2 min

Participants[Unknown person(s)]Conversation090-004 on Tape 90StartMonday, February 7, 1972 at 12:18 PMEndWednesday, February 9, 1972 at 11:22 AMRecording deviceCabinet RoomSourceNixon Library record for 090-004 ↗

This brief and fragmented exchange between unidentified participants involves a vague reference to the existence of "bad people" and an offer to facilitate a meeting regarding them. The conversation lacks sufficient context to identify the specific individuals involved or the nature of the individuals discussed. Due to the limited nature of the recording, no substantive policy decisions or actionable outcomes are evident.

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Unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 12:18 pm on February 7, 1972 and 11:22 am on February 9, 1972. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 090-004 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 90-4

Date: Unknown between February 7 and February 9, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:18 pm, February 7 and 11:22 am, February 9, 1972
Location: Cabinet Room

Unknown people met

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[Duration: 1m 31s ]

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[Recording ends while the conversation is in progress]

The unknown people left at an unknown time before 11:22 am, February 9, 1972

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Well, I was just calling to say that we have these bad people.
Call them on us if you'd like to meet them, too.
You can try us on it, too.
Oh, I should be going now.
I should be going now.
Thank you.
I just wanted to know...
Thank you.
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Conversation 090-004, February 7, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/090-004 (accessed November 2, 2026).