{"conversationCode":"099-008","tapeNumber":99,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-099-008","startDateTime":"1972-04-20T16:39:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-04-20T20:07:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Apr-1972","startTime":"11:39 AM","endDate":"20-Apr-1972","endTime":"3:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House tour group;","description":"On April 20, 1972, a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 11:39 am and 3:07 pm. 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Eisenhower\n                      -Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt\n                      -[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson\n          -Table\n                -The President’s purchase\n          -The President’s chair\n          -Seating\n                -Order\n                      -Seniority\n                            -Secretary of Defense\n                            -Secretary of State\n                            -The Vice President\n                -Chairs\n\n                     -Cabinet members\n                          -Departures\n                               -Ceremonies\n                                    -Winton M. (“Red”) Blount\n          -Meetings\n              -Press coverage\n              -Attendance\n                    -Heads of committees\n                    -Cabinet wives\n\n     White House\n          -West Wing\n               -Jacqueline Lee Bouvier Kennedy Onassis\n\nThe unknown people left at an unknown time before 3:07 pm, May 1, 1972","filename":["099-008-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["White House tour group"],"prevCode":"099-006","nextCode":"099-009","tapeTranscriptFile":"099a.mp3,099b.mp3,099c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":9804.31,"end":9807.75,"text":"This is the cabinet room."},{"start":9808.23,"end":9818.46,"text":"This is where all the decisions are made."},{"start":9818.62,"end":9826.18,"text":"The president, in 1904, had his office."},{"start":9830.09,"end":9833.25,"text":"His wife, normally, would use the merchants with his arms."},{"start":9833.27,"end":9837.38,"text":"Captain Robinson."},{"start":9837.42,"end":9843.12,"text":"It's a tradition that the president uses portraits to win the capitol."},{"start":9843.14,"end":9845.52,"text":"These are his favorite people."},{"start":9845.58,"end":9848.72,"text":"President Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, and Woodrow Wilson."},{"start":9850.31,"end":9852.21,"text":"And this is a new capitol table."},{"start":9852.23,"end":9857.49,"text":"As a matter of fact, the president bought this for the capitol."},{"start":9857.53,"end":9858.05,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":9860.42,"end":9861.3,"text":"They had a square one."},{"start":9864.62,"end":9866.56,"text":"Oh, that's right."},{"start":9866.88,"end":9868.72,"text":"The president's chair."},{"start":9868.8,"end":9869.8,"text":"The president's chair."},{"start":9869.82,"end":9873.44,"text":"The various cabinet posts go out from him."},{"start":9873.46,"end":9888.19,"text":"As you can see, the government, when they were established, as you can see, the vice president sits right across from him, and then the cabinet posts..."},{"start":9891.08,"end":9899.93,"text":"Do they stay here after they go out of office?"},{"start":9899.97,"end":9906.95,"text":"No, well, it's... Or are they sort of taken with them as a momentum?"},{"start":9906.99,"end":9909.73,"text":"Well, they're taken with them."},{"start":9909.79,"end":9912.89,"text":"The cabinet members all check in."},{"start":9914.53,"end":9917.3,"text":"It's a little ceremony."},{"start":9917.33,"end":9920.54,"text":"You usually have the same dinner for the captain."},{"start":9920.64,"end":9924.1,"text":"Or it's like a secretary blunt."},{"start":9924.24,"end":9925.18,"text":"It's not a chair."},{"start":9925.22,"end":9930.38,"text":"They bring it in for the ceremony."},{"start":9930.4,"end":9933.22,"text":"It's a little ceremony."},{"start":9936.36,"end":9938.92,"text":"Normally the press wouldn't attend."},{"start":9938.96,"end":9954.25,"text":"The heads of committees, they've had four capital B's, official capital B's, the capital Y's."},{"start":9954.27,"end":9954.73,"text":"They participate."},{"start":9956.15,"end":9959.63,"text":"Well, you know, what was it then and how it is?"},{"start":9959.85,"end":9962.73,"text":"Well, we have to keep doing that."},{"start":9962.75,"end":9965.67,"text":"Well, I'll tell you what, until it's plain and worthy, it can't go."},{"start":9965.71,"end":9968.48,"text":"I wouldn't say that, but I'll tell you, please."},{"start":9968.64,"end":9970.44,"text":"Do you think so, sir?"},{"start":9970.54,"end":9971.94,"text":"I think so, yes."},{"start":9972.02,"end":9976.78,"text":"Well, we can't be proud of it, can we?"},{"start":9976.8,"end":9976.96,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":9976.98,"end":9981.1,"text":"That's the best way we can do it."},{"start":9981.16,"end":9984.01,"text":"That's all that we want to do, sir."},{"start":9990.54,"end":9992.38,"text":"This is Kennedy."},{"start":9992.44,"end":10001.33,"text":"He started the collection right after that."},{"start":10001.35,"end":10002.35,"text":"This is Tom Stanton."},{"start":10047.3,"end":10049.14,"text":"I don't know if you want to stay in this area."},{"start":10049.16,"end":10050.24,"text":"I don't know if you want to stay here."},{"start":10050.26,"end":10051.6,"text":"I don't know if you want to stay here."},{"start":10051.64,"end":10053.26,"text":"I don't know if you want to stay here."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":9804,"end":10055,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","originalFilename":["099a.mp3","099b.mp3","099c.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["099b.mp3"],"cutStart":9802.5,"cutEnd":10056.5,"adjustedStart":9802.5,"adjustedEnd":10056.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-09-18T08:13:47.445Z"},"aiSummary":{"text":"A guide provides a tour of the Cabinet Room to a group of visitors, explaining the historical significance of the room's decor and furnishings. 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