{"conversationCode":"102-002","tapeNumber":102,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-102-002","startDateTime":"1972-05-30T04:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-30T12:01:00.000Z","startDate":"30-May-1972","startTime":"12:01 AM","endDate":"30-May-1972","endTime":"8:01 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"White House tour group;","description":"On May 30, 1972, a White House tour group met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:01 am and 8:01 am. 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The discussion focused on the room’s functional aspects, including its projection capabilities, lighting maintenance, fire safety systems, and the preservation of displayed artwork and crystal. This informal session served as an educational walkthrough for visitors regarding the daily management and physical maintenance of executive office spaces.","topics":["White House tour","Cabinet Room","Building maintenance","Art preservation","Facility operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:03:52.414Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-tours","cabinet-room","building-maintenance","art-preservation","facility-operations"],"audioDurationSec":180,"audioFiles":[{"file":"102-002-splice.mp3","bytes":2880201,"durationSec":179.98,"bitrate":128020,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-10-27T04:37:19.557Z","transcript":[{"start":2287.5,"end":2289.01,"text":"Can I come in here?"},{"start":2289.03,"end":2289.07,"text":"Eh?"},{"start":2313.38,"end":2313.98,"text":"One of these closets."},{"start":2314,"end":2315.68,"text":"That closet here is a projection booth."},{"start":2315.72,"end":2316.8,"text":"You can open that door and project."},{"start":2316.82,"end":2317.72,"text":"There's a projector."},{"start":2318.24,"end":2319.18,"text":"Projectors set up in it."},{"start":2319.2,"end":2321.94,"text":"A man comes in from the other side and projects out of the screen they set up here."},{"start":2326.03,"end":2327.49,"text":"All the units you see on the ceiling up there."},{"start":2327.51,"end":2328.73,"text":"Maybe you've seen some of those, Larry."},{"start":2328.75,"end":2330.19,"text":"These brown things right above your head."},{"start":2330.89,"end":2331.17,"text":"No."},{"start":2331.23,"end":2331.93,"text":"Fire detectors."},{"start":2331.99,"end":2332.67,"text":"Pyro alarms."},{"start":2333.11,"end":2334.29,"text":"Pyrotronics."},{"start":2334.35,"end":2336.15,"text":"Yeah, I've heard of fire detectors."},{"start":2336.61,"end":2337.94,"text":"They're extremely sensitive."},{"start":2338.08,"end":2340.38,"text":"But you need smoke or fire to have them set it off."},{"start":2344.51,"end":2346.15,"text":"They're all over this room here."},{"start":2346.73,"end":2352.5,"text":"And when that unit goes off, when that unit set off the fire alarm, the little neon light light makes sure it would light up."},{"start":2353.02,"end":2354.06,"text":"None of the other ones would light up."},{"start":2354.66,"end":2359.82,"text":"You get a fire alarm again, and you come in here, you see where it was, and you know, of course, in here, you know where it was."},{"start":2360.28,"end":2367.95,"text":"But say in a large area, where it's all under one circuit, one great big room in a warehouse, you get a fire, it says, it says a north building..."},{"start":2368.97,"end":2372.67,"text":"You go out and run around the building, and you just start looking, and you can see one of the, what do you see?"},{"start":2372.69,"end":2374.17,"text":"That little neon light glowing, or one of them."},{"start":2374.19,"end":2375.45,"text":"You know the fire is in that little area."},{"start":2375.51,"end":2376.49,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":2376.53,"end":2378.04,"text":"That thing's extremely sensitive."},{"start":2378.06,"end":2380.94,"text":"If you lit a sunbeam torch in here, that thing would go off."},{"start":2380.98,"end":2382.42,"text":"It didn't unhand at times."},{"start":2384.78,"end":2385.22,"text":"They didn't."},{"start":2386.28,"end":2386.86,"text":"It just didn't work."},{"start":2387.84,"end":2388.55,"text":"Come on, last year."},{"start":2388.61,"end":2391,"text":"But this crawl space is all through this place."},{"start":2391.78,"end":2394.02,"text":"You can crawl over any place in this building."},{"start":2394.14,"end":2396.84,"text":"Come through different trap doors and get up in it."},{"start":2396.86,"end":2399.42,"text":"Anywhere you see one, you can crawl through and put your wiring in."},{"start":2399.5,"end":2400.46,"text":"Can I go down this way?"},{"start":2400.48,"end":2400.94,"text":"All the way?"},{"start":2401.28,"end":2406.26,"text":"All the way around there."},{"start":2408.25,"end":2410.11,"text":"It's a lot of work."},{"start":2410.19,"end":2415.73,"text":"One electrician will take care of that tonight when he comes in."},{"start":2415.87,"end":2427.4,"text":"One electrician's duty is first thing in the morning to check all lights and make sure that everything is ready to go."},{"start":2429.94,"end":2431.83,"text":"Make sure that everything is ready."},{"start":2431.91,"end":2432.97,"text":"That's a pretty thing, isn't it?"},{"start":2433.09,"end":2437.32,"text":"You have to go around and scrub that crystal."},{"start":2437.44,"end":2439.7,"text":"And wash that crystal with only water."},{"start":2444.27,"end":2449.3,"text":"No, the guy sits up in a little rag and very full of the top of the waist, all the way down."},{"start":2449.32,"end":2452.6,"text":"He goes around that thing, it takes him a half an hour, an hour."},{"start":2452.62,"end":2455.48,"text":"They 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