{"conversationCode":"102-004","tapeNumber":102,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-102-004","startDateTime":"1972-05-30T04:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-30T12:01:00.000Z","startDate":"30-May-1972","startTime":"12:01 AM","endDate":"30-May-1972","endTime":"8:01 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"[Unknown person(s)];","description":"On May 30, 1972, unknown person(s) met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:01 am and 8:01 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 102-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CAB","recordingDevice":"Cabinet Room","latitudeEstimated":38.8975,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"Cabinet","chronRelease":"Cabinet Room Release","chronReleaseDate":"16-Oct-1997","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 102-4\n\nDate: Unknown between May 30 and June 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:01 am, May 30 and 8:01 am, June 13, 1972\nLocation: Cabinet Room\n\nUnknown people entered\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Non-historical]\n[Duration: 7m 47s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nThe unknown people left at an unknown time before 8:01 am, June 13, 1972","filename":["102-004-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"102-003","nextCode":"102-005","aiSummary":{"text":"This recording captures a brief, informal exchange between unidentified individuals in the Cabinet Room, likely concerning preparations or logistics for an event. The conversation touches upon the cleaning of large, intricate crystal fixtures and mentions the need for a fire extinguisher. It also briefly references artwork in the West Wing, specifically pictures of Russia and the Bolshoi Ballet School and Theater, suggesting a potential connection to an upcoming cultural event or delegation.","topics":["Cabinet Room","White House preparations","Crystal cleaning","Fire safety","West Wing art","Bolshoi Ballet","Bolshoi Theater"],"generatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:56:22.311Z"},"topicSlugs":["cabinet-room","white-house-preparations","crystal-cleaning","fire-safety","west-wing-art","bolshoi-ballet","bolshoi-theater"],"audioDurationSec":470,"audioFiles":[{"file":"102-004-splice.mp3","bytes":7520802,"durationSec":470.02,"bitrate":128007,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-10-27T08:04:58.925Z","originalFilename":["102a.mp3","102b.mp3","102c.mp3","102d.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["102a.mp3"],"cutStart":2424.5,"cutEnd":2894.5,"adjustedStart":2424.5,"adjustedEnd":2894.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"medium","splicedAt":"2026-10-27T08:04:58.925Z"},"transcript":[{"start":2424.5,"end":2428.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"make sure that everything is ready to go."},{"start":2428.5,"end":2432.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Make sure that everything is ready."},{"start":2432.5,"end":2435.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"We're the ones that have to clean up."},{"start":2435.5,"end":2443.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"It's a pretty thing. They have to go around and scrub that crystal and wash that crystal with ammonia and water. Yeah."},{"start":2443.5,"end":2444.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"How do they do it? With a ladder?"},{"start":2444.5,"end":2456.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Ah, no. A guy sits up with a rag and very, and holds the top and wipes all down. He goes around. That thing takes about a half an hour to an hour today. Those great, big, gigantic—"},{"start":2456.5,"end":2465.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Oh, yeah, I saw those. They got into a turning wheel and wash, and they lay, it takes hours about scaffolding, though."},{"start":2465.5,"end":2466.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Do they dry clean them?"},{"start":2466.5,"end":2472.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"No, they don't have to because hell, I think they don't know how to clean anyway. It's nice."},{"start":2472.5,"end":2476.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"They have to take them all apiece, don't they?"},{"start":2476.5,"end":2477.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah."},{"start":2477.5,"end":2485.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"That is pretty. It's nice."},{"start":2485.5,"end":2488.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"That This is This is 20"},{"start":2488.5,"end":2489.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Need a fire extinguisher."},{"start":2489.5,"end":2508.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Yeah. There's right over in here, upstairs. It's lost There's a picture of lost smoke and fire coming out the windows and firemen and all. That was opposite the Blue Room. [unintelligible] [laughter]"},{"start":2508.5,"end":2509.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"In the West Wing?"},{"start":2509.5,"end":2518.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"West Wing. If you get time [crosstalk] before you go down just take a look at the pictures that's down in the hall. You'll see a lot of pictures of Russia."},{"start":2518.5,"end":2529.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"That's the Bolshoi Ballet School right there on the left, this one is. And the next one is actually the Bolshoi Theater. Isn't that a place, something? We're going to go in that place."},{"start":2529.5,"end":2532.5,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"Huh."}],"transcriptCreatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:38:19.923Z","transcriptModel":"google/gemini-3.8-flash","transcriptSource":"audio-llm","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/102-004-splice.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/102-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/102/conversation-102-004","catalogNaId":648452377,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/648452377","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}