{"conversationCode":"105-006","tapeNumber":105,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-105-006","startDateTime":"1972-09-21T16:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-21T16:06:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Sep-1972","startTime":"12:00 PM","endDate":"21-Sep-1972","endTime":"12:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Beall, George; Thurmond, Strom; Price, Melvin; Fisher, O. Clark; Bennett, Charles E.; Stratton, Samuel S.; Pike, Otis G.; Ichord, Richard H.; Hagan, G. Elliott; Wilson, Charles H.; Hicks, Louise Day; White, Richard C.; Nichols, William F. (\"Bob\"); Brinkley, Jack T.; Daniel, Wilbur C. (\"Dan\"); Montgomery, Gillespie V. (\"Sonny\"); Runnels, Harold L.; Arends, Leslie C.; Bray, William G.; Wilson, Robert C. (\"Bob\"); Gubser, Charles S.; Hall, Durward G.; Clancy, Donald D.; King, Carleton J.; Dickinson, William L.; Hunt, John E.; Whitehurst, G. William; Spence, Floyd D.; Young, C. W. (\"Bill\"); Powell, Walter E.; Conover, William; Aspin, Leslie (\"Les\"), Jr.; Laird, Melvin R.; Slatinshek, Frank M.; Sanson, Joseph N.; Nickerson, Herman, Jr. (Lt. Gen.); Morris, Thomas E.; Carr, Patrick E.; Nolan, Robert W.; Ostrow, Martin M.; Matthews, Joseph J.; Beave, [First name unknown]; Nidecker, John E.; White House photographer;","description":"On September 21, 1972, At the signing for establishment of a survivor benefit plan for survivors of retired military personnel (HR 10670), President Richard M. Nixon, J. Glenn Beall, Jr., Strom Thurmond, Melvin Price, O. Clark Fisher, Charles E. Bennett, Samuel S. Stratton, Otis G. Pike, Richard H. Ichord, G. Elliott Hagan, Charles H. Wilson, Louise Day Hicks, Richard C. White, William F. (\"Bob\") Nichols, Jack T. Brinkley, Wilbur C. (\"Dan&wuot;) Daniel, Gillespie V. (\"Sonny\") Montgomery, Harold L. Runnels, Leslie C. Arends, William G. Bray, Robert C. (\"Bob\") Wilson, Charles S. Gubser, Durward G. Hall, Donald D. Clancy, Carleton J. King, William L. Dickinson, John E. Hunt, G. William Whitehurst, Floyd D. Spence, C. W. (\"Bill\") Young, Walter E. Powell, William Conover, Leslie (\"Les\") Aspin, Jr., Melvin R. Laird, Frank M. Slatinshek, Joseph N. Sanson, Lt. Gen. Herman Nickerson, Jr., Thomas E. Morris, Patrick E. Carr, Robert W. Nolan, Martin M. Ostrow, Joseph J. Matthews, Mr. Beave, John E. Nidecker, and the White House photographer met in the Cabinet Room of the White House from 12:00 pm to 12:06 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 105-006 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CAB","recordingDevice":"Cabinet Room","latitudeEstimated":38.8975,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"Cabinet","chronRelease":"Cabinet Room Release","chronReleaseDate":"16-Oct-1997","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 105-6\n\nDate: September 21, 1972\nTime: 12:00 pm - 12:06 pm\nLocation: Cabinet Room\n\nThe President met with J. Glenn Beall, Jr., Strom Thurmond, Melvin Price, O. Clark Fisher,\nCharles E. Bennett, Samuel S. Stratton, Otis G. Pike, Richard H. Ichord, G. Elliott Hagan,\nCharles H. Wilson, Louise Day Hicks, Richard C. White, William F. (“Bob”) Nichols, Jack T.\nBrinkley, Wilbur C. (“Dan”) Daniel, Gillespie V. (“Sonny”) Montgomery, Harold L. Runnels,\nLeslie C. Arends, William G. Bray, Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson, Charles S. Gubser, Durward G.\nHall, Donald D. Clancy, Carleton J. King, William L. Dickinson, John E. Hunt, G. William\nWhitehurst, Floyd D. Spence, C. W. (“Bill”) Young, Walter E. Powell, William Conover, Les\nAspin, Melvin R. Laird, Frank M. Slatinshek, Joseph N. Sanson, Lieutenant General Herman\nNickerson, Jr., Thomas E. Morris, Patrick E. Carr, Robert W. Nolan, Martin M. Ostrow, Joseph\nJ. Matthews, Mr. Beave, and John E. Nidecker; the White House photographer was present at the\nbeginning of the meeting\n\n     [Unintelligible -- camera noise]\n\n     Bill signing [House Resolution [HR] 10670, a bill providing for the survivors of retired\n           military personnel]\n           -Compared with status for civilian services\n\n                -Foreign Service\n           -House and Senate Armed Services Committees\n           -Voluntary armed services\n           -Department of Defense\n\n     The President’s comments\n          -Respect for Armed Forces personnel\n          -Support from Congress\n\n     Pen presentation\n\n     [General conversation/Unintelligible]\n\nThe President, et al. left at 12:06 pm","filename":["105a.mp3","105b.mp3","105c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Beall, George","Thurmond, Strom","Price, Melvin","Fisher, O. Clark","Bennett, Charles E.","Stratton, Samuel S.","Pike, Otis G.","Ichord, Richard H.","Hagan, G. 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