{"conversationCode":"109-001","tapeNumber":109,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-109-001","startDateTime":"1972-10-27T19:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-27T19:45:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Oct-1972","startTime":"3:18 PM","endDate":"27-Oct-1972","endTime":"3:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ramirez, Henry M. (Dr.); Sanchez, Phillip V.; Banuelos, Romana A.; Villarreal, Carlos C.; Telles, Raymond L., Jr.; Jova, Joseph J.; Montejano, Rodolfo; Rodriguez, Antonio; Conde, Carlos D.; Gallegos, Bert A.; Nunez, Louis; Cordova, Jorge L.; Hidalgo, Edward; Armendariz, Alejandro (\"Alex\"); Marumoto, William H.; Clawson, Kenneth W.; Hanzlik, Rayburn D.; Colson, Charles W.; Dole, Robert J.; White House photographer;","description":"On October 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Spanish-speaking campaign surrogates, including Dr. Henry M. Ramirez, Phillip V. Sanchez, Romana A. Banuelos, Carlos C. Villarreal, Joseph J. Jova, Raymond L. Telles, Jr., Rodolfo Montejano, Antonio F. Rodriguez, Carlos D. Conde, Bert A. Gallegos, Louis Nunez, Jorge L. Cordova, Edward Hidalgo, Alejandro (\"Alex\") Armendariz, William H. Marumoto, Kenneth W. Clawson, Rayburn D. Hanzlik, Charles W. Colson, Robert J. Dole, the White House photographer, and members of the press, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 3:18 pm and 3:45 pm. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 109-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CAB","recordingDevice":"Cabinet Room","latitudeEstimated":38.8975,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":"Cabinet","chronRelease":"Cabinet Room Release","chronReleaseDate":"16-Oct-1997","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 109-1\n\nDate: October 27, 1972\nTime: 3:18 pm - unknown before 3:45 pm\nLocation: Cabinet Room\n\nThe President met with Dr. Henry M. Ramirez, Philip V. Sanchez, Romana A. Banuelos, Carlos\nC. Villarreal, Joseph J. Jova, Raymond L. Telles, Jr., Rodolfo Montejano, Antonio F. Rodriquez,\nCarlos D. Conde, Bert A. Gallegos, Louis Nunez, Jorge L. Cordova, Edward Hidalgo, Alejandro\n(“Alex”) Armendariz, William H. Marumoto, Kenneth W. Clawson, Rayburn D. Hanzlik,\nCharles W. Colson, and Robert J. Dole; the White House photographer and members of the press\nwere present at the beginning of the meeting\n\n     [General conversation/Unintelligible]\n\n     Introductions\n\n     Arrangements for photo\n\n     [General conversation/Unintelligible]\n\n     Hispanics in government\n          -The President’s promise in 1968\n                -Appointment of Hispanics\n          -Qualifications\n                -Recruitment\n                -John Roosevelt (“Jackie”) Robinson\n\n     Hispanics\n          -Cubans\n               -Experience in US\n                     -Florida\n          -Mexicans\n               -The President’s high school experiences\n          -Blacks\n          -Mexicans\n          -Economic situation\n          -The President’s conversation with James F. A. Cardinal McIntyre\n          -Welfare, employment\n          -Role in government\n               -The President’s role\n               -Recruitment\n\n         -1972 campaign\n              -Hispanics as part of the New Majority\n         -Montebello High School\n              -Whittier, California\n         -Need to inspire youth\n         -Professional baseball players\n         -Recruitment for government\n\n    Banuelos\n        -Hispanic aspirations\n\n    Unknown man’s experience\n        -Harry S Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1952 meeting with the President\n\n    Villarreal’s experiences at the Department of Urban Mass Transportation\n          -The Administration’s budget\n\n    Effect of mass transit on Hispanic community\n\n    Unknown man’s 1972 campaign experience\n        -Dole\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 45s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n    Whittier High School\n         -Program for Hispanics\n         -The President’s background\n\n    Presentation of gifts by the President\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Souvanna Phouma\n          -Sanchez’s mother\n               -Photo session\n\nThe President left at 3:43 pm\n\n     [General conversation/Unintelligible]\n\nRecording was cut off at an unknown time before 3:45 pm","filename":["109-001-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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doing?"},{"start":119.89,"end":122.53,"text":"Just so I can see everybody, please."},{"start":271.97,"end":278.57,"text":"I have the opportunity to speak to all of you in the group for two purposes."},{"start":278.65,"end":281.57,"text":"I have to record this in the picture."},{"start":281.61,"end":295.67,"text":"Around this table are the most MITs at this level of, shall we say, Spanish speaking background or that we have ever had in this government."},{"start":295.73,"end":299.89,"text":"I remember in 1968, I don't know the person I was talking to,"},{"start":302.11,"end":306.91,"text":"And, uh, I don't know what's been going on."},{"start":306.93,"end":308.37,"text":"And, uh, there was some talking."},{"start":308.45,"end":311.94,"text":"And he said, well, what about this?"},{"start":311.98,"end":313.42,"text":"Do you need any more appointments?"},{"start":313.58,"end":315.92,"text":"And I said, well, okay, good."},{"start":315.96,"end":318.52,"text":"And I said, well, you've slowly 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going to do their thing wherever they are."},{"start":482.05,"end":487.83,"text":"I noticed, for example, as you look around, you find various groups that have pushed a little harder."},{"start":488.65,"end":491.92,"text":"Now, you take, for example, the people in the middle background."},{"start":491.95,"end":494.46,"text":"Why is it they've made some changes?"},{"start":494.84,"end":497.28,"text":"enormous impression."},{"start":497.34,"end":500.38,"text":"Well, first of all, they came in a hard way."},{"start":500.46,"end":501.64,"text":"They went out there to Florida."},{"start":502.48,"end":508.63,"text":"And first, there were a lot of people in Florida that just raised their hands about saying nothing's going to do with the state."},{"start":509.45,"end":510.25,"text":"The state is sick."},{"start":510.35,"end":513.59,"text":"You've got doctors and builders and architects down there that are doing work."},{"start":514.45,"end":515.19,"text":"They're doing everything."},{"start":515.49,"end":516.31,"text":"They're moving up."},{"start":516.57,"end":517.53,"text":"They're being recognized."},{"start":517.55,"end":520.63,"text":"And it's a wonderful thing for Florida and a wonderful thing for them."},{"start":521.77,"end":548.56,"text":"The second is true, let's face it, the second is true, are people of Mexican background, you know, I was in high school with them, they were good athletes, they were smart, they followed us well, but they were sort of feeling, well, I really don't have a chance to go up, and so consequently, they didn't try."},{"start":549.34,"end":550.24,"text":"Having said that,"},{"start":551.84,"end":576.37,"text":"I think that what really distinguishes the group that all of you come from, from some of the other groups, and particularly the group which all of us, of course, feel deserves special attention because of the historical background of the Blackhawks."},{"start":577.43,"end":580.45,"text":"What distinguishes 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hard to get ahead and to compete."},{"start":1429.4,"end":1438.49,"text":"And what you've done with the super greats here is that you've actually turned the word of exclusion to inclusion, which is a historical first that's run through this country."},{"start":1438.59,"end":1444.42,"text":"And I stand for the whole part of the country now because I fell in all of this very much."},{"start":1445.76,"end":1457.41,"text":"that our people now are turning around in their mentality and not thinking of giving us, but we're going to go out there and fight and shake that apple tree."},{"start":1457.47,"end":1462.76,"text":"When you talk about the activist thing, you say, I don't put it down like that."},{"start":1462.92,"end":1464.38,"text":"I understand activism."},{"start":1465.42,"end":1470.02,"text":"I mean, I put myself in them, so whoever they are, and maybe I'd be one, too."},{"start":1470.12,"end":1475.91,"text":"If you just get frustrated, you don't want somebody that just sits there 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I'll give them to them."},{"start":1512.85,"end":1516.49,"text":"A relative who has lots of brothers and sisters in the rural region."},{"start":1516.65,"end":1521.04,"text":"And he had a new presidential compliment that was a seal in color that was taken from the flag."},{"start":1521.12,"end":1522.08,"text":"And that was for the man."},{"start":1522.18,"end":1524.02,"text":"And that was for the ladies."},{"start":1524.04,"end":1533.7,"text":"They had just different hats on these, I think, but she was given just her main assistant for something."},{"start":1533.74,"end":1534.88,"text":"That was the new presidential gift."},{"start":1535.04,"end":1536.78,"text":"The seal came around."},{"start":1537.4,"end":1538.58,"text":"And that's Cicero."},{"start":1538.98,"end":1539.4,"text":"Is your mother here?"},{"start":1539.42,"end":1539.7,"text":"Yes, she is."},{"start":1564.75,"end":1567.69,"text":"Good luck."},{"start":1568.51,"end":1569.51,"text":"We'll be with 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