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Stein, Rumsfeld & Shultz on Labor Unions and Productivity Commission

Wednesday, December 20, 1972 · 12:00 AM–11:24 AM ET · Cabinet Room · 7 min

ParticipantsStein, Herbert; Meany, George; Lyons, John H. ("Jack"); Dennis, C. L.; Hall, Paul; Abel, I[lorwith] W.; Fitzsimmons, Frank E.; Greathouse, Pat; Brennan, Peter J.; Rumsfeld, Donald H.; Shultz, George P.Conversation110-011 on Tape 110StartWednesday, December 20, 1972 at 12:00 AMEndWednesday, December 20, 1972 at 11:24 AMRecording deviceCabinet RoomSourceNixon Library record for 110-011 ↗

Herbert Stein, Donald Rumsfeld, and George Shultz met with prominent labor union leaders to discuss the state of the economy and federal productivity initiatives. The discussion touched upon current economic indicators, including farm prices, and featured planning for an upcoming productivity exhibit at the Smithsonian Institution. The meeting served as a consultative session between the administration and labor representatives regarding ongoing economic policy and the Productivity Commission's objectives.

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George, George, I heard you on the ground.
Oh, you did?
Oh, I didn't know that.
Rydyn ni wedi mynd i fynd i mewn gyda'r... ...gwyddiadau sydd wedi mynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd
Rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl,
Mae'n rhaid i'r droedd ddweud hynny.
Mae'n rhaid i'r droedd ddweud hynny.
Mae'n dda iawn.
Mae'n dda iawn.
Mae'n dda iawn.
Ie, mae'n rhaid, ac rwy'n gwybod bod eisiau, ond dydw i ddim yn gwybod sut y byddai'r sefyllfa allan yma.
Cyn i ni ddechrau, roeddwn i'n meddwl y byddwn i'n adnabod pawb ymddangos i'r ymgyrch smithsonaidd o gynhyrchu gweithredu, a fyddai'n ymwneud mewn gwirionedd gyda chyfweliad gweithredu.
Last night, John Lyons came over and spoke at us and over.
Diolch.
Rydyn ni ar y pridd o hynny.
Rydyn ni ymlaen yn rhwng 3% o'r llaw gan rai o'r fesurau, ychydig ymlaen gan eraill, ond dyna'r fesur cyffredinol.

On December 20, 1972, Herbert Stein, George Meany, John H. ("Jack") Lyons, C. L. Dennis, Paul Hall, I[lorwith] W. Abel, Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Pat Greathouse, Peter J. Brennan, Donald H. Rumsfeld, and George P. Shultz met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 11:24 am. The Cabinet Room taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 110-011 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 110-11

Date: December 20, 1972
Time: Unknown between 12:00 am and 11:24 am
Location: Cabinet Room

Herbert Stein met with George Meany, John H. (“Jack”) Lyons, C. L. Dennis, Paul Hall,
I[lorwith] W. Abel, Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Pat Greathouse, Peter J. Brennan, and Donald H.
Rumsfeld

     Introductions

     Economy
         -Farm prices

     Election
           -Electoral College
                -Newspaper article

     Christmas shopping

     Productivity
          -Exhibit

George P. Shultz entered at an unknown time after 12:00 am

     Greetings

     Schedule
          -The President
               -Helicopter
               -Participation in meeting

     Economy
         -Productivity
              -Smithsonian exhibit opening
                    -Productivity Commission

     [Unintelligible]

     Economy

Recording was cut off at an unknown time before 11:24 am
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Conversation 110-011, December 20, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/110-011 (accessed October 12, 2026).