{"conversationCode":"110-011","tapeNumber":110,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-110-011","startDateTime":"1972-12-20T05:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-20T16:24:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Dec-1972","startTime":"12:00 AM","endDate":"20-Dec-1972","endTime":"11:24 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Stein, Herbert; Meany, George; Lyons, John H. (\"Jack\"); Dennis, C. L.; Hall, Paul; Abel, I[lorwith] W.; Fitzsimmons, Frank E.; Greathouse, Pat; Brennan, Peter J.; Rumsfeld, Donald H.; Shultz, George P.;","description":"On December 20, 1972, Herbert Stein, George Meany, John H. (\"Jack\") Lyons, C. L. Dennis, Paul Hall, I[lorwith] W. Abel, Frank E. Fitzsimmons, Pat Greathouse, Peter J. Brennan, Donald H. Rumsfeld, and George P. Shultz met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 12:00 am and 11:24 am. 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Shultz entered at an unknown time after 12:00 am\n\n     Greetings\n\n     Schedule\n          -The President\n               -Helicopter\n               -Participation in meeting\n\n     Economy\n         -Productivity\n              -Smithsonian exhibit opening\n                    -Productivity Commission\n\n     [Unintelligible]\n\n     Economy\n\nRecording was cut off at an unknown time before 11:24 am","filename":["110-011-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Stein, Herbert","Meany, George","Lyons, John H. (\"Jack\")","Dennis, C. L.","Hall, Paul","Abel, I[lorwith] W.","Fitzsimmons, Frank E.","Greathouse, Pat","Brennan, Peter J.","Rumsfeld, Donald H.","Shultz, George P."],"prevCode":"110-010","nextCode":"111-001","tapeTranscriptFile":"110a.mp3,110b.mp3,110c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":18015.02,"end":18021.71,"text":"George, George, I heard you on the ground."},{"start":18021.73,"end":18022.83,"text":"Oh, you did?"},{"start":18023.25,"end":18023.99,"text":"Oh, I didn't know that."},{"start":18026.03,"end":18052.76,"text":"Rydyn ni wedi mynd i fynd i mewn gyda'r... ...gwyddiadau sydd wedi mynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd"},{"start":18058.36,"end":18073.87,"text":"Rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl, rwy'n meddwl,"},{"start":18082.91,"end":18087.47,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i'r droedd ddweud hynny."},{"start":18087.55,"end":18093.62,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i'r droedd ddweud hynny."},{"start":18100.01,"end":18102.01,"text":"Mae'n dda iawn."},{"start":18103.43,"end":18104.11,"text":"Mae'n dda iawn."},{"start":18104.17,"end":18105.93,"text":"Mae'n dda iawn."},{"start":18121.8,"end":18130.51,"text":"Ie, mae'n rhaid, ac rwy'n gwybod bod eisiau, ond dydw i ddim yn gwybod sut y byddai'r sefyllfa allan yma."},{"start":18130.53,"end":18143.98,"text":"Cyn i ni ddechrau, roeddwn i'n meddwl y byddwn i'n adnabod pawb ymddangos i'r ymgyrch smithsonaidd o gynhyrchu gweithredu, a fyddai'n ymwneud mewn gwirionedd gyda chyfweliad gweithredu."},{"start":18149.7,"end":18153.26,"text":"Last night, John Lyons came over and spoke at us and over."},{"start":18372.5,"end":18372.63,"text":"Diolch."},{"start":18391.21,"end":18393.83,"text":"Rydyn ni ar y pridd o hynny."},{"start":18394.27,"end":18403.62,"text":"Rydyn ni ymlaen yn rhwng 3% o'r llaw gan rai o'r fesurau, ychydig ymlaen gan eraill, ond dyna'r fesur cyffredinol."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":18015,"end":18450,"startMethod":"llm-alignment","endMethod":"llm-alignment"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","originalFilename":["110a.mp3","110b.mp3","110c.mp3"],"spliceSource":{"spliceType":"bigtape","sourceFiles":["110c.mp3"],"cutStart":18013.5,"cutEnd":18451.5,"adjustedStart":18013.5,"adjustedEnd":18451.5,"boundaryMethod":"llm-alignment","confidence":"high","splicedAt":"2026-09-18T14:10:21.241Z"},"aiSummary":{"text":"Herbert Stein, Donald Rumsfeld, and George Shultz met with prominent labor union leaders to discuss the state of the economy and federal productivity initiatives. 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