{"conversationCode":"131-003","tapeNumber":131,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-131-003","startDateTime":"1972-05-16T04:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-17T18:26:00.000Z","startDate":"16-May-1972","startTime":"12:01 AM","endDate":"17-May-1972","endTime":"2:26 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"[Unknown person(s)]; Mizzer, John (\"Microwave\");","description":"Unknown person(s) and John (\"Microwave\") Mizzer talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:01 am on May 16, 1972 and 2:26 pm on May 17, 1972. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 131-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 131-3\n\nDate: Unknown between May 16 and 17, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:01 am, May 16 and 2:26 pm, May 17\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nAn unknown man talked with John (“Microwave”) Mizzer.\n\n     Widebands\n         -[Forename unknown] Cartwheel [?]\n         -613S\n\n     Secure telephone\n          -Noise\n          -613 and system\n          -Location\n                -Aspen Lodge\n\f           -A patch\n                -Check\n\n                                                                  Conv. No. 131-39\n                                                                  Conversation No. (cont.)\n                                                                                   131-4\n\nDate: Unknown between May 16 and 17, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:01 am, May 16 and 2:26 pm, May 17\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nJohn (“Microwave”) Mizzer talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n     Request for a call to Sgt. Major [Forename unknown] Petrie\n\n     The Camp David operator talked with an unknown man\n\n     Request for a call to Petrie\n\nMizzer talked with Petrie.\n\n     Telephone check\n          -A patch\n          -Local line\n          -Noise","filename":["131-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:02:37","tapeEnd":"00:03:44","participantsList":["[Unknown person(s)]","Mizzer, John (\"Microwave\")"],"prevCode":"131-002","nextCode":"131-004","transcript":[{"start":1.97,"end":7.93,"text":"How about this white band?"},{"start":7.95,"end":9.07,"text":"Are you still having problems?"},{"start":10.67,"end":11.13,"text":"Let's see."},{"start":11.55,"end":16.1,"text":"No, okay, we got our white bands cleared up, and right now we're playing with TEC-13s."},{"start":16.14,"end":18.1,"text":"Cartwheel's got a TEC-13 problem."},{"start":18.12,"end":18.6,"text":"There's a spare."},{"start":18.96,"end":25.04,"text":"Okay, well, the reason I'm calling is we're on the secure phone calling downtown, and we get that crackling noise."},{"start":26.02,"end":26.42,"text":"You do?"},{"start":26.56,"end":26.74,"text":"Yep."},{"start":29.11,"end":29.95,"text":"Okay, let me see."},{"start":30.29,"end":31.55,"text":"We've got a patch at the moment here."},{"start":32.09,"end":35.31,"text":"Okay, what we have right now is we have the TIC-13 and the frame on the same system."},{"start":35.35,"end":37.33,"text":"If we split the mute, that crackling noise would go."},{"start":37.35,"end":37.87,"text":"Okay."},{"start":37.91,"end":39.03,"text":"But where are you located?"},{"start":39.41,"end":39.77,"text":"Aspen."},{"start":40.73,"end":42.95,"text":"Okay, let's see."},{"start":43.49,"end":44.07,"text":"Okay, stand by."},{"start":44.11,"end":44.77,"text":"We'll patch it over."},{"start":44.79,"end":45.79,"text":"All right, patch it over."},{"start":46.16,"end":46.62,"text":"Okay, stand by."},{"start":46.63,"end":47.38,"text":"It'll be a minute or so."},{"start":47.4,"end":48.68,"text":"All right, then I'll try it again."},{"start":48.72,"end":49.3,"text":"I'll call back."},{"start":49.58,"end":49.86,"text":"All right."},{"start":50.02,"end":50.22,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Technical staff member John “Microwave” Mizzer and an unidentified individual coordinate troubleshooting efforts for communications equipment at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David. The participants discuss ongoing interference issues with secure telephone lines and wideband systems, specifically addressing problems with TEC-13 units. To resolve the persistent crackling on the secure line, they decide to split the mute and initiate a system patch.","topics":["Camp David","Communications security","Technical maintenance","Secure telephone","Equipment troubleshooting"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:19:58.772Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","communications-security","technical-maintenance","secure-telephone","equipment-troubleshooting"],"audioDurationSec":52,"audioFiles":[{"file":"131-003.mp3","bytes":2080199,"durationSec":51.87,"bitrate":320856,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:32.998Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:52.661Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/131-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/131-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/131/conversation-131-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}