{"conversationCode":"132-013","tapeNumber":132,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-132-013","startDateTime":"1972-05-18T04:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-07T03:49:00.000Z","startDate":"18-May-1972","startTime":"12:00 AM","endDate":"6-Jun-1972","endTime":"11:49 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Beckman, Bill; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"Bill Beckman and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 132-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 132-13\n\nDate: Unknown between May 18, and June 6, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:00 am, May 18 and 11:49 pm, June 6\n\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\nBill Beckman talked with [Forename unknown] Rectenwall [sp?].\n\n     Repairs\n          -Thermostats\n                -Plates\n                -Materials\n          -Junction boxes\n          -Plates\n\nBeckman conferred with an unknown person at an unknown time.\n\n[End of conferral]","filename":["132-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:08:49","tapeEnd":"00:10:55","participantsList":["Beckman, Bill","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"132-012","nextCode":"132-014","transcript":[{"start":1.51,"end":2.97,"text":"Yes sir, this is panel."},{"start":3.47,"end":7.25,"text":"They have all these plugs on these walls down here."},{"start":7.31,"end":13.46,"text":"Under some of these things, the old thermostats, they had just a plate on the wall about a quarter of an inch thick."},{"start":13.47,"end":20.76,"text":"I don't see why we can't go back with something like that instead of having to cut a hole and plug the wall."},{"start":20.9,"end":23.26,"text":"Are they going to be underneath where we can't see them?"},{"start":24.25,"end":36.15,"text":"No, there'll be just a plate on the outside of the wall that would be sort of like a blind switch plate."},{"start":36.41,"end":43.41,"text":"This would be made from oak and the same as the wall."},{"start":48.95,"end":53.67,"text":"Well, this would be probably as good as plugging the wall at like, you know, what do you want to say when I plug that in?"},{"start":53.69,"end":54.11,"text":"There you go."},{"start":54.13,"end":56.09,"text":"Can I put some plugs in the walls and first and second bedrooms in there?"},{"start":56.13,"end":58.62,"text":"Where they take out old junction boxes?"},{"start":58.66,"end":59.08,"text":"No, I didn't notice."},{"start":59.1,"end":61.92,"text":"Well, no, you wouldn't notice them, but I cut plugs and in there I can put in and paint it and hide it."},{"start":62.84,"end":64.52,"text":"But in here on these walls, they're just..."},{"start":77.85,"end":93.34,"text":"uh power and select on the wall okay how many how many places are you talking about two uh there'll be three i think three places uh on these kind of walls and then uh one in the first and the second bedroom okay hang on a minute"},{"start":114.39,"end":120.8,"text":"Hey, this man wants to talk to you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Bill Beckman coordinated with a contractor regarding structural repairs and aesthetic modifications at the Camp David study. The discussion focused on utilizing custom-made oak plates to conceal wiring and decommissioned junction boxes rather than cutting into the wood-paneled walls. Beckman approved the placement of these covers in the study and bedrooms to maintain the room's appearance while ensuring necessary electrical access.","topics":["Camp David","Facility Maintenance","Interior Renovation","Bill Beckman","Carpentry"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:24:47.335Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","facility-maintenance","interior-renovation","bill-beckman","carpentry"],"audioDurationSec":127,"audioFiles":[{"file":"132-013.mp3","bytes":5069636,"durationSec":126.6,"bitrate":320364,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:32.998Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/132-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/132-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/132/conversation-132-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}