{"conversationCode":"132-014","tapeNumber":132,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-132-014","startDateTime":"1972-05-18T04:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-07T03:49:00.000Z","startDate":"18-May-1972","startTime":"12:00 AM","endDate":"6-Jun-1972","endTime":"11:49 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"[Unknown person(s)];","description":"Unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:00 am on May 18, 1972 and 11:49 pm on June 6, 1972. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 132-014 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 132-14\n\nDate: Unknown between May 18, and June 6, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:00 am, May 18 and 11:49 pm, June 6\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nAn unknown man talked with Sam [Surname unknown].\n\n     Thermostats\n\n     Humidistats\n         -Replacement\n\n     Thermostats\n\n     [Forename unknown] Van Tassel [sp?]\n          -Location\n\n     Humidistats\n\n     Return call","filename":["132-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:10:55","tapeEnd":"00:13:05","participantsList":["[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"132-013","nextCode":"132-015","transcript":[{"start":0.33,"end":0.65,"text":"Mr. Redwood."},{"start":0.67,"end":0.73,"text":"Yes."},{"start":0.75,"end":1.05,"text":"Oh, about time."},{"start":1.09,"end":1.75,"text":"How are you doing, man?"},{"start":1.77,"end":1.97,"text":"We're okay."},{"start":1.99,"end":3.65,"text":"We, uh, out here is, uh, a boxy little, um, dimly lit switch in the hall."},{"start":3.67,"end":4.97,"text":"There's, uh, uh, heat and a cool thermostat there now."},{"start":38.39,"end":40.09,"text":"You have two thermostats in the living room and a thermostat in the back, right?"},{"start":40.11,"end":42.47,"text":"Well, there's a thermostat in the living room, and then another thermostat just as you start coming down the hall."},{"start":42.49,"end":44.35,"text":"And as well, if you replace the one coming down the hall, it just starts coming down the hall."},{"start":94.16,"end":95.46,"text":"I'm going to check with Frank Thompson."},{"start":95.48,"end":96.17,"text":"He's not right here."},{"start":96.19,"end":96.47,"text":"All right."},{"start":96.5,"end":98.41,"text":"I don't know if it's like anything out there or not."},{"start":98.43,"end":98.99,"text":"I honestly don't know."},{"start":99.01,"end":99.43,"text":"I think he would."},{"start":99.45,"end":100.67,"text":"I want to move them all out, right?"},{"start":100.75,"end":101.55,"text":"Yeah, he wouldn't move them all out."},{"start":101.57,"end":102.25,"text":"He wouldn't move them all out."},{"start":116.48,"end":116.75,"text":"I'll tell you."},{"start":116.77,"end":117.03,"text":"I'll tell you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"An unidentified man coordinates with an individual named Sam regarding the maintenance and physical layout of climate control equipment at Camp David. The discussion focuses on the replacement and positioning of thermostats and humidistats located throughout the residence. The participants deliberate on the feasibility of relocating these devices and agree to consult with Frank Thompson for further technical guidance.","topics":["Camp David","Maintenance","Thermostats","Humidistats","Facilities Management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:24:52.457Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","maintenance","thermostats","humidistats","facilities-management"],"audioDurationSec":130,"audioFiles":[{"file":"132-014.mp3","bytes":5219056,"durationSec":130.34,"bitrate":320335,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:32.999Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/132-014.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/132-014","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/132/conversation-132-014","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}