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Thank you, Mr. President.

All right.

It looks like when we get up there and we could possibly land.

If you want to get out of here, but that's the problem.

It's a very difficult area.

Yes, sir.

There's a large steel plant that has been completely flooded and probably will not be reclaimed.

And the flood is supposed to crest at about 43 feet there at 11 o'clock this morning.

All right.

And it goes up to that kind of place?

Yes, sir.

It's the one he recommends.

Yes, sir.

All right.

All right, sir.

Yes, please.

You get me.

Zubrod.

Z-U-B-R-O-D. Z-U-B-R-O-D.

He is at the International Hotel at Kennedy Airport.

He's going to be leaving.

I can't believe it.

He's going to be leaving right now.

at the Kennedy Airport in New York.

Kennedy Airport in New York.

Kennedy Airport, New York International Hotel.

Yes, sir.

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Okay.

Thank you.

Yes, Mr. President.

Is that the Doctors of Broadcom?

Yes, sir.

The...

uh

Hello.

Hi, how are you?

Well, what's new today?

That's really what you do, you act.

We've laid out a whole plan.

Pretty much I would, uh, have it laid out.

It's, uh, it's easy, easy, as we do with my buddy.

And I've made a lot of, uh, those PSDs up on the hill, those, uh, executive order ones.

And then we're going to hit that side to try to develop a craft that should try to run PSDs so that we can get them.

We want to protect that farm so I can play a part of it.

We're making a lot of buries up between places.

The, uh, uh, what's-it-all-like salts I found, because he had them denied there,

Oh, well, I called.

I got Conway.

Oh, so?

Well, good.

I got him right after I talked to you.

Well, good.

Then that covered it both ways.

That was good, though, that you called him, because one of the things that Conway explained to me about you is that you're pretty proud.

Right.

He hoped we would not be there.

Right.

Well, that's right, and we didn't.

Conway was very up for it.

Was he?

Oh.

Where was he when you got him?

I can't say.

Huh?

Who's he like?

How do you like him?

Did he say anything about his trip?

And he said, uh, he had a great time and, uh, he couldn't resist, uh, compelling him.

Yeah, I... That's the one thing, of course, that I... You know, he's sensitive about that.

I was calling on everybody else to go out and say things, but...

But he just isn't worth a damn.

And he gets before that tube now.

There's just... We can't get our shows about that.

You know, he comes through to us.

We know him.

You gotta know George.

The big shot that you were doing.

Oh, which one of you did that?

A real problem will be, let's face it, the CPI figures in the next two months.

And that's, I don't think there's a hell of a lot we can do about that.

Well, the only way, we just hope for Christ they come down in September.

Well, September's

The one thing, too, that I don't believe, that these people will cap on their shizzle because I cut in later, this storage of meat and stuff, and also the government purchases, is a hell of an item.

In other words, if that ticket can really get the government just not to buy anything for a while, you know, these sons of bitches can do that.

Oh, and right now, they're just, you know, they buy them up for two or three months and they store it up in freezers.

Just say, run your stocks down now.

They're running them down.

There's a tremendous waste that goes into that anyway.

We're told we just want to hog it out.

They're like the death of our world.

Death of our world.

No, no.

I don't think I should do it because I don't think it'll be effective.

I mean, I just think there's a job on the

And I just don't like me to get in with all those, you know, those retailers, those that are mainly used, and tell those sons of bitches to, you know, hold the line and hear them squeal about their profit margins.

I mean, I can hear them whining now.

You know, I'm not going to do it.

The business people, I'm not going to see any more businessmen between now and November 3rd or 7th.

No more businessmen at all.

If it's up to them to start acting like, you know, grown-up people, the hell with them.

I really mean that.

That's the point.

That business people should be coming to us.

We're not to them.

That's the difference.

I said, Adelaide, be sure to take that post-conference, I suppose, that somebody's done this, I don't know if you had to sell all of them to do it, and take the key things, like, you know, that answer about who did the, like, even the smaller thing, like, you can try to pin this wiretap

Have you done that or are you going to do it or not?

I had a letter.

uh...

In this instance, what I meant is, was the administration lying, or were on a, on a maybe a, either-counter-issue strike with them, whether on board or on the scene, and so forth, and so forth.

I don't know.

It takes, you gotta keep resolving them.

That's what it is, you know, you resolve them and resolve them

Yes, please.

Mr. President?

Mr. Alderman, he's on his way to Camp David.

He'll arrive around 1.30.

Yes, please.

Could you get me Mr. Herb Stein, please, of the Council of Economic Advisers?

Would you like to speak with him at this time, sir?

Yeah, if it's convenient, fine.

Certainly.

Thank you.

Mr. President, Mr. Herb Stein stepped out of his office for a few moments.

He will call you in about five minutes.

No, no hurry.

And I have Mr. Haldeman for you now, sir.

Go ahead, please.

Hello.

Yes, sir.

Just get in?

Yeah.

Did you have your lunch yet?

No, just drove in.

Right, right.

Well, once you have your lunch, and when you do, I can go over a couple things.

Okay.

I don't want to...

No hurry.

Okay.

I'll be over in just a few minutes.

Yeah, thank you.

All right.

Hello?

Yes, please.

Stein, please.

Mr. Stein is up.

Yeah.

Hello?

Herb, I wondered if you would pass one thing to Burns before he gets to Argentina.

He raised the point about Argentine beef coming in, and I said, sure, that's great.

I may explore it with him, because we were going to record it so far.

The fact of the matter is that...

Then Butt says the reason it doesn't come in is because it has a mouth disease.

Well, of course, I'm inclined to think there's a lot of phoniness in that.

The British take it, and, you know, in the French, everybody eats Argentine beef except us.

But that apparently is a very, very...

tough issue over there so what i'd like i just want to be sure that burns when he goes down there is aware of the problem and doesn't tell the argentine government look we're going to start taking your beef yeah and then all hell break loose here so if if you would do a little check with butts and then you just uh cable arthur at some place or talk to him on the phone and pass the word would you do that please sure good okay thank you

Yes, please.

Could you try to call to that doctor in Paris now, please?

Yes, please.

Could you try Congressman Abernathy?

He's at Bethesda Naval Hospital.

All right.

Thank you.

Yes, please.

Coulson, please.

Mr. Coulson?

Yeah.

We had a good visit today up.

I was glad to do it.

I didn't do it with any publicity, but I got good.

It was a very good thing to do, Mr. President.

Well, you know, they wanted me to announce it and have...

If I'd have done that, I'd have had 150 press people and television cameras and wouldn't have talked to anybody.

But I don't know how it played, but it was a nice thing, really, a very nice, warm story.

Well, it was a worthwhile thing to do.

You mentioned this morning that Johnson overdid that, which he did, but you have not...

Yeah, well, he overdid it by just flying over it and not stopping, you know.

I just went and talked to the folks a little.

But I think that's very important.

Because it's a horrible thing, I'll say.

Well, it's been a tough thing through this whole area.

Right.

The idea of showing concern, yeah, I think that... Yeah, over and over, people said, we didn't know anybody cared.

That's right.

And then there was a marvelous little picture of a little Negro child about...

10 years old that held my hand all for 20 minutes as we walked around.

She was scared to death.

By the way, what else is new?

Yeah, speaking of, incidentally, the use of the television thing, I was delighted to hear from Haldeman that that 55-second spot I did on the bus was carried in all three networks.

All three networks in full, plus all the network feeds, plus all the...

I checked on that after you asked me that.

When I got on the office, I checked on it, and...

Get point info on all networks, on all independents, and on all network feeds.

That's the kind of thing that I just saturated the country with, and you were very wise to keep it down in time because... Oh, you think they don't carry it otherwise, or are they cut out the part that's helpful?

Well, we used the whole thing plus the punchline, which was just approved, and I...

The punchline, which regarded that we had constitutional...

Constitutional amendment, sure.

But, I mean, because for one reason, Mr. President, whether we ever have to go to it or not doesn't matter.

The people know who are...

The people who are strongly anti-business

now know in unequivocal terms that you will take the constitutional route if necessary.

That's been the one thing that the, well, a simple type of... We haven't gotten across yet.

We haven't understood it.

And moratorium, I'm not sure what that means.

That's true.

But constitutional amendments are buzzing.

In other words, Congress either is going to give me what I want or I'm going to have a constitutional amendment.

Now, people don't understand how the processes work.

They don't understand...

It's easier to get legislation to come through.

Right, right, I agree.

But you gave them a code word.

You gave them a symbol.

On that, on that, uh...

spot last night, and that resolves it.

I don't think we'll have any confusion.

I think that we can go out and talk to people and say... Well, it certainly does for Robert.

We've got to continue to hit the damn thing so that, you know, you've got to keep repeating.

Well, I think the Congress did us a favor.

I think they, by sending that down, they gave us a forum.

Not only that, Mr. President, but the networks, all three of them gave it between two and three minutes in which they talked about it, in addition to showing us your clip.

And they talked about it because they thought it would hurt us.

I think that's probably right.

Yeah, they're all for the purse, I know.

Well, but they talked about how angry you were that the Congress had not given you the legislation.

And the coverage was superb in the newspapers we took.

I haven't seen the papers that we see here.

I haven't seen Detroit.

I've asked for it.

And Chicago and Pittsburgh, which is where...

These things really cut very, very hurt.