{"conversationCode":"134-011","tapeNumber":134,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-134-011","startDateTime":"1972-06-24T18:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-24T18:46:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Jun-1972","startTime":"2:45 PM","endDate":"24-Jun-1972","endTime":"2:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Stein, Herbert;","description":"On June 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Herbert Stein talked on the telephone at Camp David from 2:45 pm to 2:46 pm. 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Butz\n                            -Hoof and Mouth Disease\n                                  -Great Britain\n                                  -France","filename":["134-011-splice.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:32:45","tapeEnd":"00:33:55","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Stein, Herbert"],"prevCode":"134-010","nextCode":"134-012","transcript":[{"start":1965.93,"end":1969.68,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1970.06,"end":1971.36,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":1971.38,"end":1972,"text":"Stein, please."},{"start":1972.42,"end":1976.04,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":1977.68,"end":1978.41,"text":"Mr. Stein is up."},{"start":1978.43,"end":1978.75,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1979.35,"end":1979.97,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1979.99,"end":1980.15,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1980.83,"end":1985.56,"text":"Herb, I wondered if you would pass one thing to Burns before he gets to Argentina."},{"start":1986.22,"end":1992.24,"text":"He raised the point about Argentine beef coming in, and I said, sure, that's great."},{"start":1992.28,"end":1995.24,"text":"I may explore it with him, because we were going to record it so far."},{"start":1995.46,"end":1997.88,"text":"The fact of the matter is that..."},{"start":2000.21,"end":2004.31,"text":"Then Butt says the reason it doesn't come in is because it has a mouth disease."},{"start":2004.33,"end":2007.12,"text":"Well, of course, I'm inclined to think there's a lot of phoniness in that."},{"start":2007.68,"end":2011.94,"text":"The British take it, and, you know, in the French, everybody eats Argentine beef except us."},{"start":2013.02,"end":2015.95,"text":"But that apparently is a very, very..."},{"start":2016.35,"end":2043.04,"text":"tough issue over there so what i'd like i just want to be sure that burns when he goes down there is aware of the problem and doesn't tell the argentine government look we're going to start taking your beef yeah and then all hell break loose here so if if you would do a little check with butts and then you just uh cable arthur at some place or talk to him on the phone and pass the word would you do that please sure good okay thank you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Herbert Stein to provide cautionary instructions regarding Federal Reserve Chairman Arthur Burns' upcoming trip to Argentina. Nixon expressed skepticism regarding the long-standing health justifications for restricting Argentine beef imports and tasked Stein with coordinating with Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz to ensure Burns did not inadvertently make unsustainable trade promises. This conversation served to manage potential diplomatic fallout and domestic political complications surrounding international trade policies.","topics":["Arthur F. Burns","Argentina","Beef imports","Earl L. 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