{"conversationCode":"135-004","tapeNumber":135,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-135-004","startDateTime":"1972-06-29T16:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-29T16:59:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Jun-1972","startTime":"12:57 PM","endDate":"29-Jun-1972","endTime":"12:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Mitchell, John N.;","description":"On June 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and John N. Mitchell talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:57 pm to 12:59 pm. 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Mitchell\n\n     The President's schedule\n               -Executive Office Building [EOB]\n\n     New Jersey prosecution\n         -Prosecutor's political affiliation\n\nHaldeman conferred with Mitchell at an unknown time.\n\n     New Jersey prosecutor\n               -Political affiliation\n               -President's possible statement\n\n[End of conference]\n\n     New Jersey prosecution\n               -President's comments\n               -Prosecutor's political affiliation\n\n     The President's return call","filename":["135-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:12:20","tapeEnd":"00:13:42","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Mitchell, John N."],"prevCode":"135-003","nextCode":"135-005","transcript":[{"start":0.69,"end":1.09,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.25,"end":1.53,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":1.93,"end":3.91,"text":"Well, any new developments today?"},{"start":4.25,"end":6.07,"text":"No, just meeting with John Mitchell."},{"start":6.59,"end":7.03,"text":"Oh, fine."},{"start":7.11,"end":7.77,"text":"You're with him now?"},{"start":7.83,"end":8.29,"text":"Yeah, uh-huh."},{"start":8.33,"end":8.63,"text":"Fine."},{"start":8.67,"end":18.57,"text":"Well, I'm going to come back about, be there about 2.30, and then I'll spend the rest of the time in the EOB."},{"start":18.86,"end":19.66,"text":"Okay, very good."},{"start":19.8,"end":29.48,"text":"And, well, the one thing that I was interested in on that John Mitchell, on this New Jersey thing, is I suppose that the prosecutor's a Republican, isn't he?"},{"start":30.25,"end":31.61,"text":"Is the New Jersey prosecutor a Republican?"},{"start":31.63,"end":31.75,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":31.77,"end":35.61,"text":"What should we do?"},{"start":35.65,"end":36.31,"text":"Just no comment?"},{"start":36.33,"end":38.59,"text":"What should the president do in his press conference?"},{"start":38.63,"end":39.39,"text":"Just no comment?"},{"start":41.97,"end":43.55,"text":"Yeah, no comment on a pending matter."},{"start":43.99,"end":44.23,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":46.39,"end":48.65,"text":"Too bad that they get involved in that."},{"start":50.09,"end":51.81,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":52.13,"end":53.57,"text":"It is a state prosecution, isn't it?"},{"start":53.81,"end":54.65,"text":"No, it's federal."},{"start":55.21,"end":55.65,"text":"Oh, it's federal."},{"start":55.71,"end":58.13,"text":"There's a state prosecution also, apparently, Johnson."},{"start":58.33,"end":58.39,"text":"Oh."},{"start":58.41,"end":59.01,"text":"State and federal."},{"start":60.03,"end":60.95,"text":"They're both Republicans."},{"start":61.98,"end":66.9,"text":"They're both Republicans."},{"start":66.98,"end":68.38,"text":"Our cannibalism is showing again."},{"start":68.4,"end":69.6,"text":"Is that what he said?"},{"start":70.18,"end":70.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":70.42,"end":72.08,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":72.16,"end":72.56,"text":"Well, anyway."},{"start":72.58,"end":75.52,"text":"We hope for the best."},{"start":76,"end":76.22,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":78.91,"end":79.59,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":79.75,"end":80.75,"text":"I'll call you later, bud."},{"start":80.79,"end":81.07,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with H.R. 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