{"conversationCode":"136-013","tapeNumber":136,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-136-013","startDateTime":"1972-07-22T18:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-22T19:57:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Jul-1972","startTime":"2:47 PM","endDate":"22-Jul-1972","endTime":"3:57 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On July 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 2:47 pm and 3:57 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 136-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 136-13\nDate: July 22, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 2:47 and 3:57 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table (telephone)\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 197-16A]\n\n       Henry A. Kissinger's location\n            -Stewart J. O. Alsop\n\n       Cancellation of call\n\n       Return call","filename":["136-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:49:20","tapeEnd":"00:49:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"136-012","nextCode":"136-014","transcript":[{"start":0.41,"end":0.65,"text":"No."},{"start":0.87,"end":5.53,"text":"Mr. President, Dr. Kister is en route to Stuart Alsap's place."},{"start":5.57,"end":9.13,"text":"He will be there within an hour, and we can reach him there at that time if you'd like."},{"start":9.15,"end":17.34,"text":"No, I'll tell you, just let it go."},{"start":17.38,"end":18.06,"text":"Cancel the call?"},{"start":18.12,"end":24.4,"text":"You can say that at his convenience any time today he can call me, but it's not urgent."},{"start":24.42,"end":25.34,"text":"Fine, thank you."},{"start":25.48,"end":26.28,"text":"At his convenience."},{"start":26.3,"end":27.3,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon communicated with the Camp David operator to manage a scheduled call with National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger, who was en route to visit journalist Stewart Alsop. Nixon decided to cancel the immediate effort to reach Kissinger, noting that the conversation was no longer urgent. The President instructed the operator to inform Kissinger that he could return the call at his own convenience later in the day.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","Stewart Alsop","Communication management","Scheduling","Presidential protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:32:31.218Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","stewart-alsop","communication-management","scheduling","presidential-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":29,"audioFiles":[{"file":"136-013.mp3","bytes":1169949,"durationSec":29.11,"bitrate":321531,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:32.998Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/136-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/136-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/136/conversation-136-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}