{"conversationCode":"140-012","tapeNumber":140,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-140-012","startDateTime":"1972-08-16T20:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-17T01:06:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Aug-1972","startTime":"4:11 PM","endDate":"16-Aug-1972","endTime":"9:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On August 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and 9:06 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 140-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 140-12\n\nDate: August 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:11 pm and 9:06 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 202-24]\n\n     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon previous interview [by Marya McLaughlin]\n         -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                -Transcript\n                -Forthcoming request for a call to the President\n         -Julie Nixon Eisenhower's reaction to questions","filename":["140-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"140-011","nextCode":"140-013","transcript":[{"start":1.48,"end":2.34,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.04,"end":10.89,"text":"Just so that I can have it for my own peace of mind, would you ask Ron, as soon as he's got the transcript and read it, I want him to call me and give me his evaluation."},{"start":11.1,"end":11.94,"text":"Sure."},{"start":11.96,"end":14.6,"text":"Because his judgment will be pretty good."},{"start":15.52,"end":15.64,"text":"Right."},{"start":15.66,"end":27.56,"text":"Julie is not, you know, she understands how these questions have to be tough and so forth, and she thought they were really, well, basically about, in the White House, she thought they were out of place."},{"start":28.11,"end":33.01,"text":"right right okay well i'll run all right review it and get right back to you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discuss an upcoming interview given by First Lady Pat Nixon to reporter Marya McLaughlin. Nixon requests that Press Secretary Ron Ziegler review the transcript of the interview to provide a professional evaluation. The pair also touches upon Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s critical reaction to the nature of the questions posed to her mother during the session.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Ron Ziegler","Julie Nixon Eisenhower","Press Relations","Marya McLaughlin","White House Interviews"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:39:20.722Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","ron-ziegler","julie-nixon-eisenhower","press-relations","marya-mclaughlin","white-house-interviews"],"audioDurationSec":37,"audioFiles":[{"file":"140-012.mp3","bytes":885236,"durationSec":36.83,"bitrate":192303,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.322Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/140-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/140-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/140/conversation-140-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}