Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 142-003 Date: Tuesday, September 12, 1972 at 8:49 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob") Recording device: Camp David Study Table Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/142-003 National Archives Catalog: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417175331 (NAID 417175331) This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Yeah. [0:02] Yes, sir. [0:04] I was thinking on the trip to Texas, I've been a little concerned about having the first thing that we do politically be the sort of Texas thing. [0:16] Of course, we will announce the California and New York things also. [0:21] But I think it would work in nicely. [0:25] Why don't we just stop at the monument in Indianapolis on the way out? [0:30] You could have one hell of a reception. [0:35] I could make a very non-political speech about the cities and the mayor and all that. [0:41] And in my mother's state, I've always made my first appearance in a campaign. [0:49] I wouldn't say started the campaign. [0:50] You know what I mean? [0:52] Sort of the old affection, the Hoosier business. [0:54] Got appeals to the farmers, to the Midwest, to Chicago. [0:59] You could get one hell of a play. [1:01] You'd lose the Rio Grande School for television. [1:04] Well, that's... [1:06] I know, I know. [1:07] Maybe that's okay. [1:08] I'm not sure. [1:09] You'd lose it for... [1:14] Yes, you do. [1:17] But it would run the morning show, and they'd probably pick it up for the following evening, too. [1:22] Because we're not going to run the Conley thing for television, particularly. [1:25] No, but it's a Friday night, so you'd have... [1:28] I see. [1:28] You don't have the... [1:30] Much on Saturday morning. [1:32] The monument is going to be bad for television, isn't it? [1:36] I mean, it'll show a huge crowd, you know. [1:39] Right. [1:40] You know, see, the crowd thing is what I think is just, basically I'm just thinking of the fact that McGovern is playing crowds right now. [1:47] We come in with one hell of a crowd, you know. [1:50] And you play the Rio Grande not as a national story, but as a Texas story. [1:53] As a Texas story, and it would carry to the ethnics and everything else, and we do it in a very... [2:00] low key and fine way and christ it's it'll go through texas like a and new mexico and california anyway let's look into that okay fine and uh i'll be back okay yeah good