{"conversationCode":"144-004","tapeNumber":144,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-144-004","startDateTime":"1972-09-20T00:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-20T23:10:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Sep-1972","startTime":"8:10 PM","endDate":"20-Sep-1972","endTime":"7:10 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Cox, Edward R. F.; Hall, Allen C.;","description":"Edward R. F. Cox and Allen C. Hall talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 8:10 pm on September 19, 1972 and 7:10 pm on September 20, 1972. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 144-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 144-4\n\nDate: Unknown between September 19-20, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:10 pm, September 19 and 7:10 pm,\n    September 20, 1972\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nEdward R.F. Cox talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation no. 212-9]\n\n            Request for a call to Allen C. Hall [First Family Advance Office]\n\nCox talked with Hall at an unknown time.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/18/2018.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[144-004-w001]\n[Duration: 12m 25s]\n\n      Edward R.F. Cox's schedule\n            -Dinner at Rome, New York\n                    -Utica, New York\n            -Syracuse, New York\n            -Utica, New York\n                    -Schedule for September 22, 1972\n                    -Utica re-election headquarters\n                    -Press conference\n            -Utica Mutual Insurance company headquarters\n                    -New Hartford, New York\n                    -Meeting president of company\n                            -Tour of Utica Mutual Insurance company headquarters\n                                    -Meeting with employees\n                            -Public relations for insurance company and chairman\n                                    -News value (question of)\n                                    -Effect on company's business\n                            -A non-media setting\n                    -Comparison to the norms for touring a warehouse\n                            -Meeting with people\n                    -Opportunity from tour to meet with people\n                            -Number of people to meet\n                            -Lack of press and media setting\n                            -Idea of building up insurance company vs aiding the campaign\n                            -Utilization of the length of time for tour\n            -Other proposals\n                    -Meeting with Whitesboro, New York high school social studies students\n                            -Meeting with Principle\n                            -Coordinator for high school for Young People for Nixon\n                                    -Recognition for the work\n                                    -Press coverage\n\n              -Colby-King story\n                     -James H. Cavanaugh\n                     -High school\n              -Departure from Whitesboro high school\n              -Rome State School\n                     -Meeting with various individuals\n\nEdward R.F. Cox conferred with an unknown person at an unknown time.\n\n       Schedule\n\n[End of conferral]\n\n       Edward R.F. Cox's schedule\n             -Rome\n                    -Rome State School Civil Service Employees Association\n                            -Status in union for government\n                            -Supporter of Nixon\n                    -Observation of classes\n                    -Lack of press coverage\n             -Rome, New York\n                    -Committee to Reelect the President [CRP] headquarters\n             -Oneida County Airport\n             -Schenectady, New York\n                    -Reelection headquarters for the President\n                            -Meeting with the chairman\n                            -Congressional candidate John J. Ryan\n                            -Ribbon cutting ceremony for grand opening\n                                    -Time\n                                           -Noon time crowd\n             -Analysis of stopping points and their importance to the campaign\n             -Troy, New York\n                    -Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP] headquarters opening\n                            -Meeting with Congressman Carleton J. King\n                            -Time duration\n             -Russell Sage College\n                    -Time\n\n                     -Reception for Young Voters for Nixon club\n             -Polytech Institute\n             -Albany State College\n             -Siena College\n                     -Number of people present\n             -Albany Airport\n             -Flight to District of Columbia\n             -Analysis of the four partisan events\n             -Fillers for time\n             -Insurance company chairman\n                     -Meeting\n\n      Information on parochial schools\n             -Background\n             -Appearance at Jesuit college\n\n      Schedule for September 23, 1972\n            -Possible appearance at Mayflower Hotel by the President\n                    -Conversation with David N. Parker\n            -Parade (Steuben Day)\n            -Evening of September 23, 1972 in New York\n                    -Steuben Day dinner\n            -Steuben Day at Commodore Hotel\n                    -Mayor John V. Lindsay\n                           -Question of accepting or rejecting invitation\n                    -George S. McGovern\n                           -Attendance\n                           -Schedule\n                                  -Possible meeting\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["144-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Cox, Edward R. F.","Hall, Allen C."],"prevCode":"144-003","nextCode":"145-001","transcript":[{"start":4.33,"end":6.46,"text":"Hello, if you'd put an on-haul on this line please."},{"start":6.58,"end":7.16,"text":"Why certainly."},{"start":7.18,"end":7.53,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Edward R. F. Cox consulted with Allen C. Hall of the First Family Advance Office to coordinate and refine his upcoming campaign schedule for New York. The two discussed logistical details for various appearances, including visits to corporate headquarters, high schools, and Committee to Re-elect the President (CRP) campaign offices. They evaluated the media potential versus the organizational value of these events to maximize outreach to voters and supporters in the region.","topics":["Edward R. F. Cox","Campaign scheduling","Committee to Re-elect the President","New York","Public relations","1972 election"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:45:50.024Z"},"topicSlugs":["edward-r-f-cox","campaign-scheduling","committee-to-re-elect-the-president","new-york","public-relations","1972-election"],"audioDurationSec":27,"audioFiles":[{"file":"144-004.mp3","bytes":638222,"durationSec":26.52,"bitrate":192525,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.323Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:54.778Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/144-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/144-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/144/conversation-144-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}