{"conversationCode":"145-005","tapeNumber":145,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-145-005","startDateTime":"1972-09-30T18:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-30T18:45:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Sep-1972","startTime":"2:42 PM","endDate":"30-Sep-1972","endTime":"2:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On September 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 2:42 pm to 2:45 pm. 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Feb-24)\n\n                    -Christian\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/21/2018.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[145-005-w001]\n[Duration: 2m 21s]\n\n      Telephoning poll\n            -Priority\n                     -California\n                     -Michigan\n                     -California\n            -Wisconsin\n            -California\n            -Ohio\n            -Missouri\n            -California\n            -Michigan\n            -New York\n            -Pennsylvania\n            -Illinois\n            -Ohio\n            -Texas\n                     -Chicago Tribune poll\n            -California\n            -Field poll\n            -Dorothy D. Corey poll\n                     -California\n                     -Accuracy\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n                                        (rev. Feb-24)","filename":["145-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"145-004","nextCode":"145-006","transcript":[{"start":0.35,"end":0.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.01,"end":2.19,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.21,"end":15.77,"text":"Bob, one thing I wanted to tell you, I'd like to have a talk with John Connolly and, you know, for, and if he'd like to bring Christian, I'd like to see him separately early in the week."},{"start":15.83,"end":22.62,"text":"I think it's important to keep a sort of a separate dialogue going there, too, and also it's useful for me to talk to him without the others being present."},{"start":23,"end":23.18,"text":"Okay."},{"start":23.7,"end":26.56,"text":"So if you would just let John know today that"},{"start":26.98,"end":54.22,"text":"I don't want it after he's done his taping see okay so that doesn't interfere with his taping he's doing that Monday isn't he I think so that's the plan now and so we could do that on Tuesday maybe with Christian if he wants to yeah if he wants or without if he'd prefer but I just I just want to talk about general his own plans and so forth and what he's doing so that we can right get his evaluation of things at that time okay good"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directed H.R. 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