{"conversationCode":"145-013","tapeNumber":145,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-145-013","startDateTime":"1972-10-02T20:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-03T00:22:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Oct-1972","startTime":"4:59 PM","endDate":"2-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; Camp David Operator;","description":"On October 2, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:59 pm and 8:22 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 145-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 145-13\n\nDate: October 2, 1972\n\nTime: Unknown between 4:59 pm and 8:22 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 214-24]\n\n            Request for a call to Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.","filename":["145-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"145-012","nextCode":"145-014","transcript":[{"start":0.72,"end":4.7,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":4.72,"end":6.92,"text":"Can you put Admiral Zumwalt on this phone?"},{"start":7.53,"end":7.89,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":7.97,"end":9.87,"text":"I'll have to get him for you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry A. Kissinger contacted the Camp David operator to facilitate an urgent communication with Admiral Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr. The brief exchange served as a logistical bridge to connect the National Security Advisor with the Chief of Naval Operations. No further policy discussions were recorded during this brief administrative request.","topics":["Henry A. Kissinger","Elmo R. Zumwalt Jr.","Communications","Military Liaison"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:47:02.114Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-a-kissinger","elmo-r-zumwalt-jr","communications","military-liaison"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"145-013.mp3","bytes":395597,"durationSec":16.43,"bitrate":192660,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:32.999Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:54.944Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/145-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/145-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/145/conversation-145-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}