{"conversationCode":"145-016","tapeNumber":145,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-145-016","startDateTime":"1972-10-02T20:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-03T00:22:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Oct-1972","startTime":"4:59 PM","endDate":"2-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; Camp David Operator;","description":"On October 2, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:59 pm and 8:22 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 145-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 145-16\n\nDate: October 2, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:59 pm and 8:22 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 214-26]\n\n            Call from Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.","filename":["145-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"145-015","nextCode":"145-017","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.1,"text":"Yes please?"},{"start":3.07,"end":4.53,"text":"Can you put Admiral Zumwalt here?"},{"start":4.73,"end":6.42,"text":"Yes sir, I'll get him for you."},{"start":6.44,"end":8.05,"text":"He's on the line now."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry A. Kissinger requested that the Camp David operator connect him via telephone to Admiral Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr. This brief exchange functioned strictly as a logistical coordination to facilitate a direct conversation between the National Security Advisor and the Chief of Naval Operations. The communication was successfully established to initiate a high-level dialogue between the two officials.","topics":["Henry A. Kissinger","Elmo R. Zumwalt Jr.","Military Communications","Telephone Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:47:18.339Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-a-kissinger","elmo-r-zumwalt-jr","military-communications","telephone-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"145-016.mp3","bytes":264567,"durationSec":10.95,"bitrate":193349,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.322Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/145-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/145-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/145/conversation-145-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}