{"conversationCode":"147-010","tapeNumber":147,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-147-010","startDateTime":"1972-10-07T17:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-07T17:02:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Oct-1972","startTime":"1:01 PM","endDate":"7-Oct-1972","endTime":"1:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On October 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:01 pm to 1:02 pm. 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Colson\n                -Bill Marsh\n                     -American Society of Association Executives [ASAE]\n                     -Photograph opportunity","filename":["147-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"147-009","nextCode":"147-011","transcript":[{"start":0.13,"end":5.3,"text":"Hello."},{"start":5.32,"end":7.24,"text":"Hello."},{"start":7.26,"end":8.36,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":8.38,"end":8.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":8.68,"end":10.68,"text":"We have Mr. Butterfield wishing to speak with you."},{"start":12.66,"end":12.86,"text":"All right."},{"start":12.88,"end":13.3,"text":"Go ahead, please."},{"start":13.45,"end":13.71,"text":"Hello."},{"start":13.98,"end":15.19,"text":"Hello, Mr. President."},{"start":15.21,"end":15.31,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":15.33,"end":16.05,"text":"This is Alex."},{"start":16.09,"end":17.81,"text":"I was going back down to Washington."},{"start":17.83,"end":20.03,"text":"I wanted to check out with you personally before I left."},{"start":20.35,"end":20.61,"text":"Sure."},{"start":20.67,"end":24.78,"text":"I have two questions for you, though, before I go on Monday's schedule."},{"start":24.8,"end":26.48,"text":"One concerns the quadriad."},{"start":26.54,"end":29.38,"text":"Bob Haldeman thinks it's a good idea if"},{"start":29.71,"end":34.34,"text":"Rumsfeld, unannounced, sits in on the part, at least on the part concerning controls."},{"start":34.52,"end":35.88,"text":"Okay."},{"start":35.96,"end":50,"text":"The other question is we got a rather urgent appeal from Chuck Colson, I know you just talked to Chuck, on reconsidering the three-minute deal with Bill Marsh of ASAE."},{"start":53.11,"end":58.13,"text":"He says that if Marsh can get in and get a photo opportunity,"},{"start":58.32,"end":63.83,"text":"ASAE, the American Society of Association of Executives."},{"start":65.01,"end":66.75,"text":"I didn't know about that."},{"start":66.87,"end":67.21,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":67.23,"end":75.05,"text":"Well, I guess it was turned down once before, but Chuck just feels that they can get a publication out to as many as 12 million people if we can just get a picture of that fellow."},{"start":75.79,"end":76.93,"text":"We'd run it in at 12 o'clock."},{"start":77.39,"end":77.61,"text":"Sure."},{"start":77.93,"end":78.27,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":79.07,"end":79.27,"text":"All right."},{"start":79.29,"end":81.24,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Butterfield confer regarding final adjustments to the President's upcoming schedule. They determine that Donald Rumsfeld will attend the Quadriad meeting to observe the discussion on economic controls. 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