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Conversation 148-016

TapeTape 148StartWednesday, October 11, 1972 at 6:57 PMEndWednesday, October 11, 1972 at 7:00 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceCamp David Study Table
AudioNARA Description

On October 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 6:57 pm to 7:00 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 148-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 148-16

Date: October 11, 1972
Time: 6:57 pm - 7:00 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

[See Conversation No. 219-24]

        Vietnam negotiations
            -Henry A. Kissinger's schedule
                 -Col. Richard T. Kennedy’s report
                     -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                 -Paris
                 -Meeting with William P. Rogers
                 -Meeting with the President
                 -Public discussion
            -Status

                                       (rev. Oct-06)

                -Amount of time
            -Kissinger’s schedule
                -Rogers
                    -The President
                -Arrival time back from Atlanta
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yeah well kennedy has heard from their contact he has not heard from them and the contact says they are staying overnight and coming back in the morning they finished apparently so late that the airport closed at 11 they would have to have opened it to his lab yeah and uh they are not back in touch pagan and henry are not back in touch so he has not heard from them they know that we're that he's trying
to get through to them and they'll get them as soon as they get them where they can talk again.
Okay.
But what this guy, the contact said was that they, as he understood it, were planning to leave at 10 in the morning.
10 in the morning, Paris time or our time?
Paris, which would get them here at about 1, yeah, about 1 o'clock.
All right.
That's just perfect.
He used to report to Rogers immediately.
Okay.
Don't you agree?
Yeah.
and get that done, and then when I come back, when I come back, he can stand by to report to me.
But let him report to Rogers immediately, have a talk with Rogers immediately about what he can.
Don't you agree?
And then I don't mind seeing him with Rogers, but I want to talk to him.
This works out fine, because then you don't really have to.
Yeah.
Well, if he could talk to Rogers, and then he talks to me, and then the following day we could meet for a public thing.
Good.
right so that's that's it he said that apparently they they just figured they were completely beaten it was easier to stay there and come back in the morning yeah oh i understand that yeah well they probably just reached an impasse you know they can't do it now midnight there yeah i know they've been at it for yeah yeah sure and uh i think if they if they hadn't
If they've made any breakthrough, Bob, they let us know.
Don't you agree?
Yeah.
So I wouldn't worry about it.
They did the best they could.
I'm sure it's one of those clouded things.
That's right, sure.
We agreed on all the nine points except the important one.
But it's all right.
That's right.
That's what it looks like.
But at least they fought it all day long.
And it's good that they're coming back, and we'll see them when they're fresh.
Right.
But if you could give Rogers a little fill-in.
But before he sees me, that's the important thing.
Then he can see me so they can really have a good talk.
Don't you agree?
Yes, sir.
And what time will we be back from Atlanta?
Gosh, it's 5.30?
5.30, I think, yeah.
5.30, all right.
I'll take it to be sure.
It's about that.
Well, that's soon enough.
I can just figure that he can... We'll get together with him.
Okay, fine.
All right.
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