{"conversationCode":"152-002","tapeNumber":152,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-152-002","startDateTime":"1972-10-30T00:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-30T01:58:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Oct-1972","startTime":"7:55 PM","endDate":"29-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Brennan, John V.; Camp David Operator; [Unknown person(s)]; Milne, Dan;","description":"On October 29, 1972, John V. Brennan, Camp David operator, unknown person(s), and Dan Milne talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 7:55 pm and 8:58 pm. 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Tower, October 29, 1972\n            -Arrangements\n                -Time\n                -The President's schedule\n                -Establishment of call\n                     -Line\n\nDan Milne joined the conversation at an unknown time between 7:55 pm and 8:58 pm.\n\n        The President's telephone call to Tower\n            -Arrangements\n                -Hookup\n                     -Receiving telephone in Texas\n                     -Timing\n\nMilne conferred with an unknown person at an unknown time between 7:55 pm and 8:58 pm.\n\n        The President's telephone call to Tower\n            -Arrangements\n\n[End of conferral]\n\n        The President's telephone call to Tower\n            -Arrangements\n                -Tower\n                -Switch to public address system\n                -Presidential extension\n                     -Brennan","filename":["152-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Brennan, John V.","Camp David Operator","[Unknown person(s)]","Milne, Dan"],"prevCode":"152-001","nextCode":"152-003","transcript":[{"start":2.7,"end":6.81,"text":"You're on Mr. Johnson?"},{"start":7.17,"end":9.43,"text":"Just a moment, sir."},{"start":9.47,"end":12.86,"text":"Oh, whatever."},{"start":12.92,"end":14.64,"text":"There's Mr. Johnson's on now."},{"start":14.66,"end":15.21,"text":"Oh, okay."},{"start":16.06,"end":16.78,"text":"Oh, Major Brannan?"},{"start":17.44,"end":18.29,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":18.43,"end":23.32,"text":"Anytime that you are, they're waiting for the call at approximately 2100 our time."},{"start":23.34,"end":23.92,"text":"Okay."},{"start":23.94,"end":26.52,"text":"Well, I'm going to go in for them to get them now."},{"start":26.56,"end":28.46,"text":"So I guess I'll just leave this one off the hook."},{"start":28.8,"end":29.53,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":29.81,"end":32.81,"text":"And when I come back with him and he sits down, I'll pick this up."},{"start":33.15,"end":33.35,"text":"Right."},{"start":33.37,"end":35.02,"text":"Do you want us to go ahead and establish the call?"},{"start":35.64,"end":36.72,"text":"Yep, that's the time to do it."},{"start":36.92,"end":38.1,"text":"You want to establish it this time?"},{"start":38.14,"end":46.02,"text":"Establish the call now, and I'll just leave this line open, and when I come back, I'll just, when I come back with him, I'll just, I'll come back to this one and make sure it's okay."},{"start":46.04,"end":46.92,"text":"Okay."},{"start":46.94,"end":48.46,"text":"When I come back, I'll be with him."},{"start":48.48,"end":48.82,"text":"Okay."},{"start":48.84,"end":49.88,"text":"Thank you, now."},{"start":49.9,"end":51.69,"text":"I understand they're establishing the call now."},{"start":51.95,"end":53.77,"text":"He's going after the president at this time."},{"start":53.81,"end":54.87,"text":"Establish the call now."},{"start":54.89,"end":56.94,"text":"And so establish the primary call."},{"start":57.19,"end":58.95,"text":"Okay."},{"start":58.97,"end":61.89,"text":"Can you inform me as soon as they start putting that through?"},{"start":61.91,"end":66.94,"text":"Because I've got the phone turned off here to make sure that there's no possibility of any external calls coming in."},{"start":66.96,"end":68.96,"text":"Okay, you'll get it then."},{"start":69.34,"end":71.63,"text":"Okay, we're ready now, so just put it through right away."},{"start":71.87,"end":75.63,"text":"We're ready right now, so put it through."},{"start":76.27,"end":93.28,"text":"All right, so the phone is ringing here and the senator is on his way to answer it."},{"start":93.4,"end":93.76,"text":"Roger."},{"start":94.1,"end":96.76,"text":"Two more rings before he picks it up."},{"start":96.78,"end":97.56,"text":"Okay."},{"start":97.58,"end":99.29,"text":"Can you just tell me when to pick up the phone?"},{"start":99.31,"end":100.11,"text":"Yes, sir, I will, sir."},{"start":100.85,"end":102.73,"text":"Within a minute or two, sir, unless you need more time."},{"start":103.17,"end":104.89,"text":"Okay, Dan, switch to the PA."},{"start":105.84,"end":107.02,"text":"is on, sir."},{"start":107.04,"end":110.46,"text":"Major Brennan, you may pick up the call on the presidential extension, sir."},{"start":110.56,"end":111.21,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"John V. 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