{"conversationCode":"153-032","tapeNumber":153,"conversationNumber":32,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-153-032","startDateTime":"1972-11-16T18:35:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-16T18:35:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Nov-1972","startTime":"1:35 PM","endDate":"16-Nov-1972","endTime":"1:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On November 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at 1:35 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 153-032 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 153-32\n\nDate: November 16, 1972\nTime: 1:35 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 225-33]\n\n       Request for a call to Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis\n            -Location\n                   -Soviet Union\n                          -Return home\n                                -Timing\n                                     -Thanksgiving\n\n       Request for a call to Norman Chandler","filename":["153-032.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"153-031","nextCode":"153-033","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":0.95,"text":"Hello."},{"start":0.97,"end":5.62,"text":"Mr. President, Mr. Lewis is in Russia and will not be back until the day before Thanksgiving."},{"start":5.64,"end":6.4,"text":"Oh, that's right."},{"start":6.42,"end":8.61,"text":"I knew he was going over."},{"start":8.63,"end":9.27,"text":"Right."},{"start":9.59,"end":12.92,"text":"Would you try Mr. Norman Chandler in Los Angeles, please?"},{"start":12.98,"end":14.58,"text":"Surely."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the Camp David operator to facilitate phone calls to key contacts. Upon learning that Hobart D. Lewis was unavailable due to travel in the Soviet Union, the President pivoted and requested to be connected to Norman Chandler in Los Angeles. This interaction reflects the administrative process of managing the President's personal and political correspondence while at the presidential retreat.","topics":["Presidential communications","Scheduling","Hobart D. Lewis","Norman Chandler","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T08:58:02.080Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-communications","scheduling","hobart-d-lewis","norman-chandler","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":21,"audioFiles":[{"file":"153-032.mp3","bytes":501763,"durationSec":20.79,"bitrate":193109,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:32.999Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/153-032.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/153-032","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/153/conversation-153-032","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}