Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 153-050
Date: Friday, November 17, 1972 at 8:33 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Camp David Study Table
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/153-050

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[0:00] Bob?
[0:01] Yes, sir.
[0:02] I'm sorry to get this Rogers thing, just to make sure we understand.
[0:06] I want you to be able to go down the list and say, the President has talked to Laird.
[0:09] Laird wants to leave.
[0:10] The President offered him a very important position, you know, and Laird said no.
[0:17] He was happy and so forth.
[0:20] Then go down and say, as far as Treasury is concerned, Schultz is staying.
[0:24] As far as Clint East, Clint East is staying, you know, for a reasonable time.
[0:29] And as far as the Richardson, we have something worked out for him that he's satisfied with.
[0:38] Hutt, Romney wants to leave.
[0:41] And I'd say transportation just buff a little.
[0:44] Volpe has let it known be transit that he wants to leave and probably go to Italy.
[0:49] As far as Hodgson, he's told Schultz he wants to leave.
[0:52] And as far as commerce is concerned, Peterson's totally satisfied.
[0:58] And so, Bill, let's understand, you are the only one that we have any problem with.
[1:04] Now, let's talk about that.
[1:05] See what I mean?
[1:06] I'd be very cold turkey about it so he doesn't get away with this crap that I'm going to be cold and hard with people, right?
[1:14] Because I told you Pat was concerned about the columns or the rest.
[1:19] What do you think of that?
[1:20] Have there been columns of that sort?
[1:22] I haven't seen any.
[1:23] She said that Julie and Trisha had raised it with her, too.
[1:26] I don't know what it is.
[1:27] Have there been columns of the effect that we've been hard-hearted and cold and drawing everybody out?
[1:32] I think it's the goddamn Washington Post.
[1:33] That's all I think.
[1:34] It could be.
[1:34] I think generally that what we've done has been rather, if anything, more than average approved.
[1:43] Or has it been?
[1:45] Or half-assed?
[1:48] No.
[1:48] Maybe 30, 50, 50 or what?
[1:49] No.
[1:50] What is the case?
[1:50] I don't know.
[1:51] Nobody knows what we've done yet.
[1:53] But in terms of what I said in the Horner interview and where we're going to go, what is the reaction?
[1:58] Is it negative?
[1:59] Is it?
[1:59] No.
[2:00] But very positive.
[2:01] Okay.
[2:02] That's the point.
[2:02] Okay.
[2:03] Right.
[2:03] You worked it out with Rogers.
[2:04] Right.