Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 155 › Conversation 155-025

Nixon phone call with Woods on Mudge Rose Law Firm and Dentist appointment

Tuesday, November 21, 1972 · 9:28 AM–9:32 AM ET · Camp David Study Table · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation155-025 on Tape 155StartTuesday, November 21, 1972 at 9:28 AMEndTuesday, November 21, 1972 at 9:32 AMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 155-025 ↗

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President Nixon consulted his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to coordinate various scheduling matters and logistics regarding his upcoming travel and personal appointments. The discussion focused on confirming an appointment with his dentist, Dr. William O. Chase, and discreetly inquiring about the holiday operating hours of the Mudge, Rose, Gutherie and Alexander law firm in New York. Additionally, they reviewed travel arrangements involving Bebe Rebozo and Julie Nixon Eisenhower, as well as the status of meetings with Cabinet members.

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Hello.
Miss Woods.
Good morning.
Hi, Rose.
How are you?
I wondered if you would call Dr. Chase.
And if you would call and find out how long it takes.
I think they said a half an hour.
Oh, okay.
Well, ask him.
I don't know whether he likes to come in early.
Still, if I could say do it, say it, come in and do it, say at 8 o'clock, have the 8 o'clock appointment on Friday, if that's convenient for him.
If not, I could do it, say at 10.30 or something like that.
You know what I mean?
All right.
And then should I let somebody, whoever's working on your schedule, let them know?
Yeah, just tell them up here what time is good.
In other words, 8 or 10.30 would be fine with me.
All right.
8 or 10.30, and we'll do that.
Now the other thing I would like you to find out if you would, Rose,
I think he'd prefer 8.
Remember, he always used to take me at 8 o'clock.
I would think he would, because then there's no delay.
He's changed his habits, but that keeps out of his other ways.
Would you check to see whether the firm is going to be in on Friday, or do they take a holiday?
I don't recall what they used to do Thanksgiving Day weekend, do you?
No, I don't.
Well, a lot of places do take the long weekend, but I don't really remember what they do.
Yeah, just find out discreetly if they do.
When I go to New York, I thought that it would be a nice touch just to drop by there.
I haven't been there since I left, see, for good reasons.
But I think now it will be a very nice thing to do.
So check that to see what time the firm, if the firm is going to, if they're going to be around, see, around, say,
two o'clock in the afternoon or something like that.
And if you could, on Friday.
All right.
If they're not, I don't want them to make a— I can find out without really anybody knowing why I'm asking.
Yeah, sure.
Let's see.
Okay.
And suddenly Bebe's going to come up and go with us.
Julie worked that out.
So that'll be very nice so that she'll have somebody with her.
And Paul Keyes said, you know, he can make it that next weekend.
Yeah, well, we're going to try to— But then I'm filming that weekend.
We're trying to get that set up so we can get all these things finished so I can.
But see these cabinet people, so many of them have been on vacations and running around every place that I just couldn't get the end to get set.
But they'll be all through by Monday or Tuesday, I think.
But then I have two more days to do.
Okay, fine.
You just go find out all those things.
The other thing that I could do, I was thinking on Ryland, I could pop by his— Well, the problem is that when we told him we didn't need him this week, he went to Vermont, which was why I had— Oh, I see.
No, no, no.
If I was uptown, no, no, no, I don't need him at all.
I just thought that if I was down there, his office would get a hell of a kick out of it.
Yeah, they would, except, you know, his daughter's up there.
Great, great.
We'll pass that then.
All I need to know is where the firm—you call me back on that, will you?
Yes.
And just call me back in the dentist, too.
Then when you get the two off, I get OK. OK.

NARA Description

On November 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:28 am to 9:32 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 155-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 155-25

Date: November 21, 1972
Time: 9:28 am - 9:32 am
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

[See Conversation No. 229-11B]

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                                                         Conversation No. 155-25 (cont’d)

       The President’s schedule
            -Appointment with Dr. William O. Chase
                  -Length
                  -Time
                  -Chase’s preferences
            -Trip to New York
                  -Mudge, Rose, Gutherie and Alexander Law Firm
                         -Holiday
                         -Hours of operation
                                -Woods’s inquiry
                  -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                         -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
            -Paul W. Keyes
                  -Trip to Florida
            -Cabinet officers
                  -Vacations
            -Visit with Dr. W. Kenneth Riland
                  -Vermont
                  -Riland’s daughter
            -Dentist appointment

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Also recorded on November 21, 1972

  • 155-022 9:10 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:10 am and 9:24 am.
  • 229-008 9:10 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:10 am and 9:24 am.
  • 155-023 9:24 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:24 am to 9:25 am.
  • 229-010 9:24 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:24 am to 9:25 am.
  • 155-024 9:25 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:25 am and 9:28 am.
  • 229-011 9:25 AM · 1 hr 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Camp David operator, Rose Mary Woods, John V. Brennan, and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:25 am and 10:35 am.
  • 183-003 9:33 AM · 1 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Camp David operator, and Lawrence M. Higby talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:33 am and 4:41 pm.
  • 155-026 9:43 AM · 4 min — Rose Mary Woods, President Richard M. Nixon, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:43 am to 9:48 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 155-025, November 21, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/155-025 (accessed October 9, 2026).