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Conversation 155-029

TapeTape 155StartWednesday, November 22, 1972 at 10:52 AMEndWednesday, November 22, 1972 at 10:56 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Woods, Rose MaryRecording deviceCamp David Study Table
AI Summary

President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the logistical risks surrounding a planned social event for Elmer Bobst at a New York law firm. Fearing disruptive protests due to the event’s location, Nixon decides not to attend, expressing concern that his presence would trigger a demonstration. They agree that Nixon will instead invite Bobst to meet with him privately during a separate visit to the firm, while suggesting that First Lady Pat Nixon attend the event in the President's place.

Elmer BobstNew York CityProtestsPat NixonSchedulingPublic relations
AudioNARA Description

On November 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone at Camp David from 10:52 am to 10:56 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 155-029 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 155-29

Date: November 22, 1972
Time: 10:52 am - 10:56 am
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

[See Conversation No. 230-12]

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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Trip to New York
             -Visit to Mudge, Rose, Gutherie and Alexander Law Firm
                   -John N. Mitchell
                   -Milton C. Rose
                         -Elmer H. Bobst
                              -Invitation
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                                                               Conversation No. 155-29 (cont’d)

                   -Party for Bobst
                         -The President’s preference
                         -Location
                               -Problem with the President’s visit
                                     -Demonstrations
                               -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon visit
                               -Jews

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Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hi, hello.
Hello.
I had an idea Rose, I don't know whether it's, which might kill two birds with one stone and you could sort of check with John Mitchell to see if he agrees to, it might be just a thought to let Elmer, for Milt Rose to have Elmer there, you know, at the time I come to terms, only Elmer of all the people because he's the one that brought me down and introduced me to the mall.
Uh huh.
What do you think?
I think it would be a nice thought, or do you agree?
Yeah, I think it would, especially if you're not going to that thing of his on the 16th.
I'm not going to that.
You're not?
I can't go, because I can't run into a riot down there.
It'll attract a terrible situation.
We've checked it out.
It's very bad.
It's in the wrong part of town.
Well, I hope somebody other than one of the little kids tells him, because it's going to absolutely break his heart.
I know that, but we'll have somebody else go.
I'll have a young guy, but I cannot go to that.
But I'll work that out.
Maybe, I'll tell you, I think maybe they'll have other clients.
He's going to bring that up.
Right.
So I agree.
We won't do that.
And I'll work the other thing out.
I agree.
Because we can't go there and have his event spoiled by having a bunch of people outside shouting.
That's what's going to happen.
You see, you know where that is.
It's in the worst part of town.
And it's going to happen just as sure as hell.
Maybe Pat could go.
They might come for her, but not as much.
Not as much.
But you see, it's 80% Jewish in the university rows.
Oh, I know.
It's a terrible spot.
It's going to be rough as hell.
But I'll get Pat.
I'd try to come.
I'll get Pat to go.
But I just thought if you see him before this is told.
Yeah, don't do it.
Don't do it.
Good.
Okay.
Okay.
We'll work it out.
Bye.
All right.
Bye.
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