{"conversationCode":"157-010","tapeNumber":157,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-157-010","startDateTime":"1972-12-06T20:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-06T21:40:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Dec-1972","startTime":"3:31 PM","endDate":"6-Dec-1972","endTime":"4:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On December 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:31 pm and 4:40 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 157-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 157-10\n\nDate: December 6, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:31 pm and 4:40 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\f                                              -14-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                          (rev. Apr.-08)\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 157-10 (cont’d)\n\n[See Conversation No. 233-16]\n\n       Melvin R. Laird and William P. Rogers\n            -Location\n                  -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] conference\n                  -National Security Council [NSC]\n\n[There is no Conversation No. 157-11]","filename":["157-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"157-009","nextCode":"157-012","transcript":[{"start":1.2,"end":17.9,"text":"Operator, would you check to see whether I think both Secretary Laird and Secretary Rogers are at NATO?"},{"start":19.7,"end":21.02,"text":"I don't want to talk to either of them."},{"start":21.06,"end":22.34,"text":"I just don't know where they are."},{"start":23.09,"end":24.29,"text":"Will you call me back?"},{"start":24.31,"end":24.39,"text":"Yes."},{"start":25.21,"end":26.83,"text":"The NSC staff will know."},{"start":26.85,"end":27.15,"text":"Yes, certainly."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon requested that the Camp David operator confirm the locations of Secretary of Defense Melvin R. Laird and Secretary of State William P. Rogers. He specifically sought to verify if both officials were attending a NATO conference, while explicitly noting he did not wish to speak with either of them. The President directed the operator to consult the National Security Council staff to resolve the inquiry and call him back with the information.","topics":["Melvin R. Laird","William P. Rogers","NATO","National Security Council","Presidential scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:07:37.478Z"},"topicSlugs":["melvin-r-laird","william-p-rogers","nato","national-security-council","presidential-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":34,"audioFiles":[{"file":"157-010.mp3","bytes":814384,"durationSec":33.79,"bitrate":192829,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.323Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/157-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/157-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/157/conversation-157-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}