{"conversationCode":"158-049","tapeNumber":158,"conversationNumber":49,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-158-049","startDateTime":"1972-12-30T17:27:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-12-30T17:29:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Dec-1972","startTime":"12:27 PM","endDate":"30-Dec-1972","endTime":"12:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Warren, Gerald L.;","description":"On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Gerald L. Warren talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:27 pm to 12:29 pm. 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Scali\n                 -Press relations\n                       -Scali’s view\n                       -Questions\n                              -Tone\n                       -Patriotism\n                       -Norman Kempster\n                       -Helen Thomas\n                              -Comment about 1973\n\f                                             -63-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 158-49 (cont’d)\n\n                        -The President’s demeanor\n                        -Gaylord Shaw of Associated Press [AP]\n                  -Scali\n                  -Wire stories","filename":["158-049.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Warren, Gerald L."],"prevCode":"158-048","nextCode":"158-050","transcript":[{"start":0.44,"end":29.12,"text":"I just wanted to know that, uh, if I was comfortable with it."},{"start":29.14,"end":29.26,"text":"I did."},{"start":29.28,"end":29.8,"text":"I was comfortable with it."},{"start":29.82,"end":29.94,"text":"I did."},{"start":32.16,"end":55.33,"text":"It's not important to me."},{"start":55.35,"end":55.73,"text":"I do appreciate it."},{"start":55.75,"end":57.05,"text":"It's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's,"},{"start":65.1,"end":87.45,"text":"I'm sure that if you have to talk to them, if you have to."},{"start":87.47,"end":88.55,"text":"Yes, and Helen Thomas is the first runner, as you say."},{"start":88.57,"end":90.21,"text":"She was just smiling broadly, and she said it's going to be a very happy new year."},{"start":90.23,"end":90.45,"text":"Good, good."},{"start":90.47,"end":92.23,"text":"And how does it become that you give it to the students, the freshmen, to be in the car?"},{"start":92.25,"end":92.89,"text":"Yes, they like to be in the car."},{"start":92.91,"end":93.17,"text":"That's right."},{"start":93.19,"end":93.69,"text":"Unruffled and determined."},{"start":93.71,"end":93.81,"text":"Good."},{"start":93.83,"end":94.86,"text":"That is what the PSA will allow anybody else to do."},{"start":95.32,"end":117.1,"text":"Well, Dana and Shaw, they do say they're on the decent."},{"start":117.12,"end":117.66,"text":"And we said the same thing."},{"start":117.68,"end":119.48,"text":"We were trying to get into the interpretation of it, and I stayed with the mayor's policy."},{"start":119.5,"end":120.06,"text":"Look, it's going to be fine."},{"start":120.08,"end":120.62,"text":"It's going to be all right."},{"start":120.64,"end":120.94,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":120.97,"end":121.27,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":121.28,"end":121.58,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":121.61,"end":121.91,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":121.93,"end":122.23,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":122.25,"end":122.55,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":122.57,"end":122.87,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":122.89,"end":123.19,"text":"It's all right."},{"start":123.98,"end":127.94,"text":"Good job."},{"start":127.97,"end":128.17,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Deputy Press Secretary Gerald L. Warren conferred regarding the administration's public relations strategy and the reception of recent press briefings. The discussion focused on managing the tone of White House press interactions, specifically addressing the reporting of figures such as Helen Thomas and AP journalists. Nixon expressed satisfaction with Warren's performance, reinforcing the administration's determination to maintain a composed public image amidst ongoing media scrutiny.","topics":["Press relations","White House communications","Media management","Vietnam War","Public image"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:15:03.660Z"},"topicSlugs":["press-relations","white-house-communications","media-management","vietnam-war","public-image"],"audioDurationSec":134,"audioFiles":[{"file":"158-049.mp3","bytes":3224944,"durationSec":134.24,"bitrate":192189,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.324Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:57.156Z","transcriptGapSeconds":96,"transcriptGapShare":0.72,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/158-049.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/158-049","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/158/conversation-158-049","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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