On December 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at Camp David from 1:04 pm to 1:16 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 158-057 of the White House Tapes.
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Hello.
Yes, sir, what's the problem?
Well, I, uh, any further reports?
Well, I got, uh, a couple of the girls, yeah, they're trying to find people fast, yeah, they want to do it, but they're all up to no good.
Well, he's on a boat, and that's where they tracked him down, but he's, he's going to be back tomorrow, and, uh, I probably will not get to ask him to come up.
I got Moynihan, and I'll tell you, that's his, that's his own girl with two.
I wouldn't admit it.
Uh, you know how our music started with him, Frank.
Frank, be the cloud in heaven, oh my God, and then he laughed up worriedly, and then he said to, oh, he said to, here's the thing, he said, I could see the person that the president has been laboring under, he said, I could see the president two weeks ago, and he said, well, sir, well, sir, tell the president, well, John, I see it for him, and I see it for the country, but you've got to bless him, and
I got John Lee.
John Lee's very appreciative of the call.
Yes.
Uh, it was interesting.
He was, he was, he was, again, he did really well for next season, but he was afraid that the, uh, world reaction would affect him, because he might, he might have been on a position where he really got kicked, because he was really on a position that, you know, that he couldn't have, couldn't have come at a better time.
Uh, I think he was a little bit relieved to be pushed down, and he said, congratulations, President, he's done it again.
You know, John is strong, John is a good dancer, and just, you know, he knew damn well how rough it had been on you.
So, you know, I think it's been a damn tough period for you.
I really appreciate it.
You did a good job, sir.
I said to him, well, he's not going to do it properly.
He said, I want to do something, but I can't do it.
He said, I do, too.
And he just said, well, we're going to do it early.
So, this is my outcome, sir.
Well, no, they're trying to sell it.
Uh, he, he didn't call a lap, but the, what they called, uh, he wanted to get on, like, and he pulled out of base, and, uh, and, uh, he only had a call, and he didn't handle, he didn't handle the water.
The water was completely over, you know, the three-night salaried on a gill, and, uh, of course, you know, it's still wet.
I heard in front of me that's been yanked off the bridge.
It's sort of like, it's sort of a stupid editorial that was the last chance.
And there's a message in the mouth of the guy that says what has been done with it.
And after they report it, they're going to report one paragraph in here.
They say if we do not stop now, when will we stop, the official answer is clear.
And the optimist believes that an acceptance will come soon.
Just a few more days of punishment and Hinoe might finally break.
Well, that's right.
What's the interruption?
Well, this is...
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
I pulled it.
I'm trying to reach McGregor to see if we can get
Yeah, I'm trying to get my problem is I didn't want to.
I didn't want you to be there and people in many places.
I didn't want to get there.
I got it.
College of New College said, you know, he was very pleased because he said he was going to be a general.
And he just said that on Tuesday, he told his webcast that he had told him about it.
And he said that when he actually made his webcast, he was headed for the bombshell.
And he said he received over 1,500 wires.
That was 98% supported.
Is that right?
Right.
He said that he couldn't hardly find it.
to do, you know, all these different things, you know, I don't know.
Well, Marzano, we've been making a point in the new city to hearing from all of the special effects left here in Connecticut, Pittsburgh, and they call up and they say, tell the president right now, and I don't think he's going to handle it into a priming class.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know, the Americans are basically impatient people.
That's the problem.
That's it.
Yeah, I know.
We really are.
That's it.
It's just that they...
Yeah, but the service, the management is there as well.
Like, you know, they're doing good.
People are doing good.
Yeah.
They're doing good.
It's a great job for families, but it's, you know, it's been a long time.
We're going to have a hell of a job.
I don't know what's happening in that area.
We're going to have to see that off that line.
That's the line that's going to have to hit that line.
They can't say that we paid, it's just because they've been urging us to pay.
They can't say that, and they can't say we really gave them the money to purchase, so they don't have to pay.
They'll pay the real deal, but the line will be the cheapest place you've seen in life.
I'll let you know.
Uh, it's kind of a really interesting area, it's going to be crazy.
It's going to bust here, but it's going to have to be a really good place.
But as you know, it's going to be pretty good.
And one of his people here specifically booked a time as a much more significant and much impressive.
on it, and on it, and on it.
Because he said, here, where he's here, it was the president really stating everything right in the wake of this election, of this inauguration coming up.
It was a good feeling in the country.
He's not allowed to have the courage to do the tough things that nobody, you know, nobody would expect the president to want to do at this point in time.
And it pretty much was out of the situation for the public to understand.
uh, the district of Lattice, yeah, that's right, and he said, you know, he said, correct this, I need to be worried about it, they shouldn't talk to you, so I said, correct to the person, he said, thank you, I'm in public confidence, and I said, there's a fine line here, and there's a good line, and he said, I, he said, and every reporter I talked to, I said, so it was just, he worked it, worked them around to the point where there wasn't enough to go to, I said, and he did what he said, I said, he said, I did that, I said, I pointed out to
I really think it is useful to have that.
There will be some reporter tomorrow, I predict it right now, who will say, I'm going to do two things.
It will be a reporter who will say, I'm going to do two things.
I'm going to do two things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My god, my god, my god.
I do think the operation will have to do, because now the invitation gets her out, and I think they're trying to get her out.
I'm trying to find the...
I'm trying to find the