{"conversationCode":"161-001","tapeNumber":161,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-161-001","startDateTime":"1973-02-02T05:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-03T20:30:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Feb-1973","startTime":"12:01 AM","endDate":"3-Mar-1973","endTime":"3:30 PM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"[Unknown person(s)]; Camp David Operator;","description":"Unknown person(s) and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 12:01 am on February 2, 1973 and 3:30 pm on March 3, 1973. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 161-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.4","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part IV","chronReleaseDate":"8-Dec-2010","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 161-1\n\nDate: February 2 or 3, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 3:43 pm, February 2, and 3:30 pm, February 3, 1973\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nUnknown man talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 241-4D]\n\n       Call to Hagerstown\n\nUnknown man talked with [first name unknown] Douglas.\n\n[See Conversation No. 241-4E]\n\n       Tape\n              -Type\n              -Delivery\n              -Sony\n              -Content\n              -Source\n              -Sgt. Farrell D. Moreland\n              -Procedures for checking","filename":["161-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["[Unknown person(s)]","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"160-015","nextCode":"161-002","transcript":[{"start":8.71,"end":18,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":18.16,"end":32.97,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":38.51,"end":42.63,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":42.79,"end":43.57,"text":"Douglas?"},{"start":43.59,"end":44.73,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":45.15,"end":49.32,"text":"You know that tape you gave me to go in that Sony yesterday?"},{"start":49.78,"end":50.9,"text":"The tape I gave you?"},{"start":51.1,"end":53.56,"text":"Yeah, you know the cassette?"},{"start":54.04,"end":55.02,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":55.08,"end":56.7,"text":"Okay, let me ask you something."},{"start":56.72,"end":58.33,"text":"Did you check that tape before you put it in the machine?"},{"start":59.83,"end":61.29,"text":"Before I put it in the machine?"},{"start":61.47,"end":63.29,"text":"I mean before I did, before you give it to me."},{"start":64.45,"end":65.59,"text":"No."},{"start":65.88,"end":68.2,"text":"That tape shouldn't have anything on it."},{"start":68.22,"end":68.92,"text":"Yeah, got news for you."},{"start":69.1,"end":69.68,"text":"It did."},{"start":69.9,"end":70.4,"text":"Yes."},{"start":70.44,"end":70.9,"text":"What was on it?"},{"start":70.98,"end":72.05,"text":"Music."},{"start":72.06,"end":72.57,"text":"Music?"},{"start":72.59,"end":72.83,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":74.39,"end":74.75,"text":"Damn."},{"start":75.77,"end":76.19,"text":"That's it."},{"start":78.09,"end":79.8,"text":"Now those tapes were sent to us."},{"start":80.12,"end":81.14,"text":"I know that."},{"start":81.16,"end":82.94,"text":"We got him on the phone now."},{"start":82.96,"end":84.72,"text":"Got who on the phone?"},{"start":84.86,"end":85.14,"text":"Moreland."},{"start":86.89,"end":89.21,"text":"So you didn't check it on him?"},{"start":89.23,"end":89.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":89.35,"end":90.63,"text":"Pumpkin, okay."},{"start":90.65,"end":90.81,"text":"No."},{"start":90.83,"end":91.71,"text":"Okay, okay."},{"start":91.73,"end":93.85,"text":"That was supposed to be a clean tape, but it was brand new."},{"start":93.89,"end":95.82,"text":"I know it, but they ain't brand new."},{"start":96.05,"end":98.11,"text":"Okay."},{"start":99.36,"end":100.42,"text":"I'll hang on here."},{"start":100.46,"end":101.06,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":102.34,"end":102.56,"text":"Forget it."},{"start":102.6,"end":102.82,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":102.88,"end":105.72,"text":"Well, what can I say?"},{"start":105.77,"end":106.13,"text":"That's it."},{"start":106.17,"end":106.71,"text":"That's it."},{"start":106.77,"end":107.15,"text":"Okay."},{"start":108.01,"end":109.51,"text":"They're supposed to be new tapes."},{"start":109.57,"end":109.99,"text":"Right."},{"start":110.07,"end":110.29,"text":"Right."},{"start":110.31,"end":110.97,"text":"I'll let you go."},{"start":111.09,"end":113.4,"text":"They come out of that bag with them new tapes."},{"start":113.42,"end":113.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":113.54,"end":115.6,"text":"They weren't new tapes, though."},{"start":115.62,"end":117.68,"text":"Well, I guess we have to run through and check all them out."},{"start":117.7,"end":118.83,"text":"We've got to check every one of them."},{"start":119.43,"end":119.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":120.25,"end":122.12,"text":"So I'll let you go, okay?"},{"start":122.38,"end":123.63,"text":"I'll call you a little later tonight."},{"start":123.67,"end":124.01,"text":"All righty."},{"start":124.11,"end":125.92,"text":"Okay, we'll see you."},{"start":127.04,"end":127.2,"text":"Bye-bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"An unidentified individual contacts an associate named Douglas to report that a cassette tape, ostensibly brand new and sourced from the official supply, contained pre-recorded music. The two discuss the failure in quality control regarding equipment provided by Sgt. Farrell D. Moreland. 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