{"conversationCode":"163-002","tapeNumber":163,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-163-002","startDateTime":"1973-03-18T20:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-03-18T20:09:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Mar-1973","startTime":"3:05 PM","endDate":"18-Mar-1973","endTime":"3:09 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon;","description":"On March 18, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 3:05 pm to 3:09 pm. 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Lindsay\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n***************************************************************************","filename":["163-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Cox, Tricia Nixon"],"prevCode":"163-001","nextCode":"164-001","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":1.18,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.34,"end":2.16,"text":"Patricia."},{"start":2.18,"end":2.46,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.78,"end":3.12,"text":"Daddy?"},{"start":3.52,"end":4.06,"text":"Hi, Tricia."},{"start":4.46,"end":4.94,"text":"How are you?"},{"start":4.96,"end":6.42,"text":"Well, are you feeling any better today?"},{"start":7.45,"end":8.23,"text":"Sure, I really am."},{"start":8.41,"end":8.71,"text":"Good."},{"start":9.13,"end":12.63,"text":"It's pretty cold up here, so... Dewey said it was snowing."},{"start":13.09,"end":14.01,"text":"Yeah, it's flurries."},{"start":14.87,"end":26.73,"text":"I just went out for a walk by myself."},{"start":26.75,"end":29.67,"text":"Yeah, I went out with the dog."},{"start":29.73,"end":30.29,"text":"I went out with King."},{"start":30.89,"end":35.66,"text":"Yeah, but it's pretty cool, pretty cold."},{"start":35.98,"end":38.54,"text":"But I like Camp David when it's that way, don't you?"},{"start":38.84,"end":43.51,"text":"Well, I'd like it if there were snow on the ground, frankly, but it's a little hard to walk."},{"start":43.91,"end":45.09,"text":"Have you been in the pool yet?"},{"start":45.27,"end":46.03,"text":"No, I'm going."},{"start":46.13,"end":48.23,"text":"I'm going to go about 4 o'clock, though."},{"start":48.33,"end":49.48,"text":"Oh, good, good."},{"start":49.76,"end":50.82,"text":"I hope everybody will go in."},{"start":50.84,"end":54.28,"text":"Then we're going to eat something about 5.30 and have sea movie, and they're going to go back."},{"start":54.42,"end":55.88,"text":"We'll probably come back, too."},{"start":55.9,"end":59.05,"text":"Oh, I thought you might stay an extra day to work on your things."},{"start":59.36,"end":62.41,"text":"Well, I might, but I don't know."},{"start":62.47,"end":63.71,"text":"I think I've got to..."},{"start":63.77,"end":66.75,"text":"I'm just making some notes, and I think I have to see some people tomorrow."},{"start":66.79,"end":69.59,"text":"So it's probably one of those times I can't stay."},{"start":80.23,"end":81.91,"text":"I was really thinking about coming up there."},{"start":82.35,"end":84.81,"text":"I guess I might come up and spend about..."},{"start":85.01,"end":90.94,"text":"I don't know whether we'd just come up on a Friday and say stay over one day like we were talking about."},{"start":91.28,"end":92.41,"text":"Sure, that would be great."},{"start":92.42,"end":92.58,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":93.09,"end":93.91,"text":"That would be terrific."},{"start":93.93,"end":94.75,"text":"When do you think it will be?"},{"start":94.77,"end":98.23,"text":"I think we'll probably be moving in about the middle of April."},{"start":100.22,"end":100.98,"text":"Middle of April."},{"start":101,"end":102.8,"text":"So why don't you come up in May?"},{"start":103,"end":104.4,"text":"You think you'll move in the middle of April?"},{"start":104.82,"end":106.13,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":106.15,"end":108.81,"text":"So it would be beautiful there in May."},{"start":109.67,"end":110.25,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":110.27,"end":110.91,"text":"That would be great."},{"start":110.97,"end":112.87,"text":"Yeah, the spring there is just pretty nice."},{"start":112.89,"end":113.89,"text":"It can really be pretty."},{"start":114.72,"end":115.02,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":115.11,"end":116.34,"text":"Unless you just keep the streets clean."},{"start":116.72,"end":118.8,"text":"Oh, gosh."},{"start":118.82,"end":119.02,"text":"We'll see."},{"start":119.04,"end":119.58,"text":"All right, well."},{"start":120.34,"end":121.64,"text":"Okay, sweetie."},{"start":121.66,"end":123.03,"text":"All right, now you just take care."},{"start":123.67,"end":124.79,"text":"I'm a little saucy when I get back."},{"start":124.95,"end":125.81,"text":"Okay."},{"start":125.83,"end":128.11,"text":"You know, nothing's going to get you down."},{"start":128.29,"end":128.51,"text":"No."},{"start":128.53,"end":128.99,"text":"Okay, sweetie."},{"start":129.01,"end":129.67,"text":"Okay, bye."},{"start":129.69,"end":130.28,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon and his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, engaged in a brief, informal conversation while both were at Camp David. 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