{"conversationCode":"164-005","tapeNumber":164,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-164-005","startDateTime":"1973-04-28T14:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-28T14:02:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Apr-1973","startTime":"9:01 AM","endDate":"28-Apr-1973","endTime":"9:02 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David operator;","description":"On April 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:01 am and 9:02 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 164-5\n\nDate: April 28, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 9:01 am and 9:02 am\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\f                                               -6-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n     Request for telephone call\n          -William P. Rogers","filename":["164-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David operator"],"prevCode":"164-004","nextCode":"164-006","transcript":[{"start":0.15,"end":5.16,"text":"Secretary Rogers, please."},{"start":5.18,"end":7.41,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the Camp David operator to initiate a telephone call to Secretary of State William P. Rogers. This brief exchange served exclusively as a logistical step to establish communication with the Secretary. No substantive policy matters or further decisions were discussed during this interaction.","topics":["William P. Rogers","Communication logistics","Diplomacy","Executive office administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:19:13.643Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-p-rogers","communication-logistics","diplomacy","executive-office-administration"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"164-005.mp3","bytes":391168,"durationSec":12.15,"bitrate":257629,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:58.119Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/164-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/164/conversation-164-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}