{"conversationCode":"164-008","tapeNumber":164,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-164-008","startDateTime":"1973-04-28T14:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-28T14:09:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Apr-1973","startTime":"9:08 AM","endDate":"28-Apr-1973","endTime":"9:09 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 28, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:08 am to 9:09 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 164-8\n\nDate: April 28, 1973\nTime: 9:08 am - 9:09 am\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     William P. Rogers’s schedule\n\f                                               -8-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n           -Transportation arrangements\n                 -Military aide\n                 -Helicopter\n                       -Bethesda Naval Hospital\n                             -Proximity to Rogers’s home\n                       -Thurmont, Maryland\n                 -Return travel\n           -President’s schedule","filename":["164-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"164-007","nextCode":"164-009","transcript":[{"start":0.49,"end":1.89,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.91,"end":3.09,"text":"Mr. Bolton, Mr. Preston."},{"start":3.35,"end":4.59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.61,"end":4.79,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":4.81,"end":7.66,"text":"I want Secretary Rogers to come up to see me."},{"start":7.68,"end":8.94,"text":"I have talked to him, and he's willing."},{"start":9.62,"end":18.99,"text":"I want you to arrange, call him, and work with the military and arrange for a helicopter to pick him up at the Bethesda pad."},{"start":19.07,"end":21.23,"text":"There's a pad there that's close to his home."},{"start":22.27,"end":26.2,"text":"And have them bring him to, they'll probably have to drop in at the Thermon."},{"start":26.22,"end":29.14,"text":"I don't know how the weather is here, so they can get in."},{"start":29.6,"end":32.84,"text":"And he's ready to come just whenever you make the arrangements."},{"start":32.86,"end":33.88,"text":"All right?"},{"start":34.04,"end":35.2,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":35.28,"end":36.03,"text":"Will he just stay the weekend?"},{"start":36.77,"end":37.29,"text":"No, no, no, no."},{"start":37.31,"end":40.21,"text":"He's just coming up to see me, and then he'll come back."},{"start":40.23,"end":40.65,"text":"All right."},{"start":40.67,"end":41.85,"text":"Just by himself."},{"start":41.87,"end":45.28,"text":"Then, Steve, once you have made those arrangements, call me back."},{"start":45.3,"end":51.41,"text":"Tell me approximately when he will be here so I can plan my date."},{"start":51.43,"end":51.61,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":51.63,"end":52.97,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate the transportation of Secretary of State William P. Rogers to Camp David for a private meeting. The logistics involve arranging a military helicopter to transport Rogers from a helipad near his residence in Bethesda to the designated landing site at Thurmont. Bull is instructed to finalize these details promptly and report back to the President with an estimated arrival time to facilitate scheduling.","topics":["William P. Rogers","Camp David","Logistics","Transportation","Scheduling","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:19:30.645Z"},"topicSlugs":["william-p-rogers","camp-david","logistics","transportation","scheduling","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":58,"audioFiles":[{"file":"164-008.mp3","bytes":1851392,"durationSec":57.76,"bitrate":256425,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.104Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:58.120Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/164-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/164/conversation-164-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}