{"conversationCode":"164-036","tapeNumber":164,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-164-036","startDateTime":"1973-04-29T16:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-29T16:30:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Apr-1973","startTime":"12:28 PM","endDate":"29-Apr-1973","endTime":"12:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.;","description":"On April 29, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:28 pm and 12:30 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-036 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 164-36\n\nDate: April 29, 1973\nTime: Between 12:28 pm and 12:30 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with William P. Rogers.\n\n     Watergate\n          -Rogers’s schedule\n          -President’s forthcoming speech, April 20, 1973\n                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n\f                                               -28-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                      -Draft\n                 -Rogers’s assistance\n                      -[Milk] fund [?]","filename":["164-036.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Rogers, William P."],"prevCode":"164-035","nextCode":"164-037","transcript":[{"start":0.32,"end":13.89,"text":"Bill, suppose one thing that could be helpful, if you wouldn't mind, if you could maybe come up around 4 o'clock, and I'd like to... Price is working on the draft."},{"start":13.99,"end":22.18,"text":"I've spent some time, of course, and I just went over the first, and I've sent the second, but you can imagine I'm having a hell of a time trying to get it done."},{"start":22.28,"end":26.55,"text":"I made up all the first outline a couple days ago, and he's coming along."},{"start":26.57,"end":28.03,"text":"He's got a pretty good draft."},{"start":28.01,"end":30.83,"text":"But I remember how helpful you were at the time of the fund."},{"start":30.87,"end":32.76,"text":"Would you mind coming up and say it then?"},{"start":33.02,"end":33.76,"text":"I'll be glad to."},{"start":34.06,"end":43.39,"text":"And frankly, I might not even see you, but if you could look over Price's draft and make suggestions and so forth and so on, it would be very helpful, I think."},{"start":43.41,"end":43.83,"text":"That'd be good."},{"start":44.17,"end":46.07,"text":"I may do it maybe 4.30 or something like that."},{"start":46.09,"end":46.99,"text":"4.30 is fine."},{"start":47.01,"end":48.75,"text":"4.35, 4.30."},{"start":48.89,"end":49.85,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":49.88,"end":50.86,"text":"5 o'clock is fine."},{"start":51.12,"end":52.1,"text":"Maybe 5 would be better."},{"start":52.12,"end":52.88,"text":"Well, I'll be glad to do it."},{"start":52.9,"end":53.38,"text":"Make it 5."},{"start":53.68,"end":54.18,"text":"Fine."},{"start":54.22,"end":55.4,"text":"Goodness gracious."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon requested Secretary of State William P. Rogers to travel to Camp David to review and provide editorial feedback on a draft of his forthcoming address regarding the Watergate scandal. Nixon tasked speechwriter Raymond K. Price, Jr. with preparing the draft and sought Rogers's input, explicitly referencing Rogers's prior assistance during the 1952 Checkers fund crisis. The two agreed that Rogers would arrive at 5:00 p.m. to review the document and offer suggestions to strengthen the President's public response.","topics":["Watergate scandal","Presidential speechwriting","Raymond K. Price, Jr.","William P. Rogers","Public relations strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:22:05.679Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate-scandal","presidential-speechwriting","raymond-k-price-jr","william-p-rogers","public-relations-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":60,"audioFiles":[{"file":"164-036.mp3","bytes":1927168,"durationSec":60.13,"bitrate":256385,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.103Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:58.126Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/164-036.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-036","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/164/conversation-164-036","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}