{"conversationCode":"164-043","tapeNumber":164,"conversationNumber":43,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-164-043","startDateTime":"1973-04-30T14:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-30T14:22:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Apr-1973","startTime":"10:21 AM","endDate":"30-Apr-1973","endTime":"10:22 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David operator;","description":"On April 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:21 am and 10:22 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-043 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 164-43\n\nDate: April 30, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 10:21am and 10:22 am\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n     Request for telephone call\n          -Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["164-043.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David operator"],"prevCode":"164-042","nextCode":"164-044","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":4.79,"text":"Yes, sir?"},{"start":4.81,"end":5.43,"text":"The Ziegler, please."},{"start":5.66,"end":8.07,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated a brief telephone request through the Camp David operator to be connected with White House Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The call served as a logistical step to facilitate direct communication with his press office. No further substantive policy discussions occurred during this brief exchange.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House communications","Logistics","Presidential staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:22:44.181Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-communications","logistics","presidential-staff"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"164-043.mp3","bytes":413696,"durationSec":12.8,"bitrate":258560,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:58.128Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/164-043.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-043","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/164/conversation-164-043","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}