{"conversationCode":"164-051","tapeNumber":164,"conversationNumber":51,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-164-051","startDateTime":"1973-04-30T15:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-30T15:03:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Apr-1973","startTime":"11:02 AM","endDate":"30-Apr-1973","endTime":"11:03 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at Camp David from 11:02 am to 11:03 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-051 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 164-51\n\nDate: April 30, 1973\nTime: 11:02 am and 11:03 am\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\f                                            -36-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                         Conversation No. 164-51 (cont’d)\n\n     Ronald L. Ziegler’s press conference\n\n     Request for telephone call\n          -Ziegler\n          -Ziegler’s schedule","filename":["164-051.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"164-050","nextCode":"164-052","transcript":[{"start":0.96,"end":1.7,"text":"Mr. Bowles, sir."},{"start":2.16,"end":4.75,"text":"I think Ziegler will be doing a briefing about now."},{"start":4.89,"end":5.23,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5.25,"end":9.21,"text":"As soon as he finishes, tell him to give me a call, please."},{"start":9.43,"end":9.87,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":9.89,"end":10.09,"text":"I will."},{"start":10.13,"end":10.57,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":10.59,"end":13.5,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted Stephen B. Bull to monitor the progress of Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler’s current press briefing. Upon being informed that the briefing was underway, the President instructed Bull to have Ziegler call him immediately after the event concluded. This brief interaction served to maintain direct communication with his communications team during a period of intense public scrutiny.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","Press briefing","White House communications","Executive coordination","Watergate era"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:23:28.727Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","press-briefing","white-house-communications","executive-coordination","watergate-era"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"164-051.mp3","bytes":587776,"durationSec":18.24,"bitrate":257796,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:58.129Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/164-051.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-051","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/164/conversation-164-051","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}