{"conversationCode":"164-057","tapeNumber":164,"conversationNumber":57,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-164-057","startDateTime":"1973-04-30T21:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-30T21:55:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Apr-1973","startTime":"5:54 PM","endDate":"30-Apr-1973","endTime":"5:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Ziegler, Ronald L.; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On April 30, 1973, Ronald L. Ziegler and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David from 5:54 pm to 5:55 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-057 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 164-57\n\nDate: April 30, 1973\nTime: 5:54 pm - 5:55 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nRonald L. Ziegler talked with the President.\n\n      President’s previous press conference\n            -Date","filename":["164-057.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Ziegler, Ronald L.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)"],"prevCode":"164-056","nextCode":"164-058","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":6.66,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.68,"end":8.26,"text":"Sir, I have Mr. Ziegler calling."},{"start":8.4,"end":11.4,"text":"Yeah, hello, Ron."},{"start":11.58,"end":11.72,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":11.77,"end":13.63,"text":"March 15th, Mr. President."},{"start":13.67,"end":14.81,"text":"Yeah, okay, thank you."},{"start":14.99,"end":19.04,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler held a brief telephone conversation to verify the specific date of the President’s previous press conference. Ziegler confirmed for the President that the event took place on March 15th. This exchange appears to be a routine administrative check to ensure the accuracy of the administration's public records.","topics":["Richard Nixon","Ronald Ziegler","Press conferences","Administrative record-keeping","White House communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:24:00.708Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-nixon","ronald-ziegler","press-conferences","administrative-record-keeping","white-house-communications"],"audioDurationSec":24,"audioFiles":[{"file":"164-057.mp3","bytes":765952,"durationSec":23.83,"bitrate":257174,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.104Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/164-057.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-057","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/164/conversation-164-057","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}